I’m glad you said that

me too, because this part confuses me

The thing is, a man doesn’t need help.

lol

i'm glad you said that

speak on it, please

A man doesn’t seek out help to be a man. So why would I expect them to be a man? I made a comment earlier that a man accepts god at a spiritual level that most of us are unaware of happening* (at least for me, I wasn’t aware until after waking up that I had that connection to god) what I’m saying here is that I won’t even have to drill someone on accepting god in this manner, it will happen naturally.

why do we have discussions like this in the first place?

Good question csquare I like it

I like to have them to make folks think and reflect

it is almost the only time I am ever physically interested in having a conversation any more IRL

It’s engaging

i like them because we learn from each other, when we're both open to it. communication that isn't just empty is one of the main things i enjoy on this planet

kinda helps to stretch out and grow your own

so fellowshipping is good thing

Yes, fellowshipping is a good way to put it

@PastPresentFuture do you follow the idea that a man who isn't a man is a woman, and hence, an evil person?

Mmmm no.

alright cool. that's one thing i haven't been able to wrap my head around so far, not for a lack of understanding

I know you didnt ask me but I would say that thing that is suppose to be a man that aint. He is capable of evil.

Yup

If you are a male and have anger you are a beta.

hmmm so

this is a very strict, specific definition on what it is to be a man. it seems inspired by jesse's definition of man, which is, as i can gather, the ideal human being; the perfect christian male, and no other type of male can be a man. do i have that right?

your input is appreciated here, csquare

yes a man is a man.

lol

Any you hot bois listen to Roy masters?

why aren't people allowed to be angry? even for a little while?

i'm sure we all get angry once in a while. what is it about anger that makes one seem weak? it can be totally justified.

i've heard jesse say anger comes from the devil, but i've also heard him say it has more to do with being a woman - i can't quote him on those because i can't remember, but those 2 had me a bit confused

wow...

I’ve never heard of Roy masters

And yes like csquare said. Boys are boys, men are men, girls are girls and women are women.

sometimes i wonder if jesse is being serious 70% of the time

haha, i do too, narratory. he's got a sense of humour for sure, and doesn't hide it! the only problem is, half the bloody time you can't tell if he's joking or not when he says some of the things he does

it's part of his appeal to me actually

No one is saying you aren’t allowed to be angry. Be angry if you want to be lol. I don’t see the point of anger or any benefit from being angry. I have lost the desire to be in that state.

well, not saying that we aren't -allowed- to be angry, but if we are, then we're either beta, a woman, or of the devil (hope you don't mind me bringing jesse's words into this and chucking them next to yours. if you do, just say)

again, this is about what's not being said. the subtle implications of this definition of man

Hehe