Message from @PastPresentFuture

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2018-06-22 21:56:34 UTC  

i noticed that i could stay on track in a debate until i got angry, at which point i'd get dirty as hell with it

2018-06-22 21:57:34 UTC  

i worked on my anger. i'm pretty free of the bullshit it used to throw up in my brain

2018-06-22 21:58:20 UTC  

i just bring that up as an addition to what you said, ppf. now i think there wasn't much point, lol

2018-06-22 21:58:47 UTC  

i wanted to ask if it's possible for someone to feel angry in response to a given situation without necessarily "having anger," in the sense of carrying it around with them etc

2018-06-22 22:07:23 UTC  

Anomie I understand 200% , I also notice a moment right before I am about to blow tf up, where it if I just pay attention I don't act like an out of control woman

2018-06-22 22:08:38 UTC  

yeah csquare, i'm with you on that one. a distinction someone made for me which really helped was that between a reaction and a response, and how, in tense situations, you might need to take a few seconds before engaging something, so you formulate a proper response instead of just reacting

2018-06-22 22:08:44 UTC  

Whew this is hard to articulate but I will try

2018-06-22 22:09:05 UTC  

respect, ppf

2018-06-22 22:15:10 UTC  

I'm at home with my seeds, I'll look at yall later

2018-06-22 22:20:46 UTC  

Having anger and not having anger is black and white, no grey area; from my experience in the situation that requires a quick response and would “normally” provoke anger or rage it came down to discerning reality. It’s very complex to put into words but in the heat of the moment I stay calm and in control, i let emotions go through me without holding onto it, the devil (the deceiver, the negative energy/chi/darkness/the lie/ etc.) tries to fill me with doubt or persuade me to ignore reality and associate and link memories, feelings, pride, whatever to convince me that the lie is reality. If I buy into that lie I would garner anger and it will lead me to ruin. If I doubt the doubt I can see reality clearly, I can understand the situation and the pressure/need for anger disappears. Even in the event that I need to defend myself physically I can act without anger.

2018-06-22 22:21:18 UTC  

Anger comes from the devil

2018-06-22 22:21:30 UTC  

The devil used women to get to the man

2018-06-22 22:22:37 UTC  

Women aren’t inherently evil, but are used by evil to pull others away from good. Like men, most women are unaware of what they do.

2018-06-22 22:23:23 UTC  

Good women are influenced by good men and are able to function perfectly

2018-06-22 22:24:13 UTC  

Bad women are or were influenced by bad and weak men. Women hate and resent a weak man and that destroys a woman... And the poison spreads.

2018-06-22 22:27:13 UTC  

Later csquare ✌️

2018-06-22 22:34:35 UTC  

ah, ppf, ty for answering. i'm in a skype call. give me 5-10, then i'll read

2018-06-22 22:34:44 UTC  

It is possible to see the anger coming and cast it away. In time the initial feeling of anger won’t even exist. You will have peace

2018-06-22 22:34:50 UTC  

No problem man

2018-06-22 22:41:04 UTC  

You literally have to love the hell out of your wife

2018-06-22 22:41:45 UTC  

Literally love the hell OUT of your wife

2018-06-22 22:43:01 UTC  

Hah that's it

2018-06-22 22:44:10 UTC  

Not sure if I’m coming in this with the correct context but I’d like to join the discussion. I find that I rarely have anger, these days especially. What I do feel is nervous energy, trembling etc, when in certain situations that would usually have sparked anger in the past. I feel nervous because I want to respond appropriately, stand my ground if necessary, but also not respond the way the person or situation expects me to. I usually feel peace afterwards when I successfully skirt anger. But there is an energy there that is powerful in the moment for me. Speaking usually about debate or tough conversations.

2018-06-22 22:45:28 UTC  

Sounds like joy

2018-06-22 22:46:06 UTC  

Like conversations with black children of the lie especially. They have so much hate for me. I try to come from a place of love when I explain what’s wrong in black culture and society. I think maybe I’m nervous that I won’t succeed in defeating the hate they feel

2018-06-22 22:46:15 UTC  

Hate me*

2018-06-22 22:47:06 UTC  

If they do nothing of value will be lost

2018-06-22 22:47:12 UTC  

You know that

2018-06-22 22:47:15 UTC  

I dunno what typo I just corrected 😂

2018-06-22 22:48:32 UTC  

I do feel that changing minds is valuable. Maybe that’s where it comes from, I want to express myself clearly and nervous that maybe I will be misunderstood

2018-06-22 22:50:11 UTC  

Things like standing my ground are easy to do without getting angry because I know the difference between being assertive and being angry and being bullied as a kid taught me not to let people push me around. But a battle of the wits is sometimes tricky for me.

2018-06-22 22:51:00 UTC  

Lol

2018-06-22 22:51:05 UTC  

Maybe it’s the fear of being misunderstood and the other party spiraling into anger and attacking you? (Not just physical attacks)

2018-06-22 22:51:22 UTC  

Maybe it is fear

2018-06-22 22:51:51 UTC  

Fear is another form of anger. Essentially fear is born from resentment or anger from the past.

2018-06-22 22:52:00 UTC  

Ah I see

2018-06-22 22:52:32 UTC  

I fear being wrong too

2018-06-22 22:52:45 UTC  

thanks for answering man @PastPresentFuture

2018-06-22 22:52:45 UTC  

Fear is of the same nature of anger* the deceiver wants to put any emotion he can inside you to steer you into destruction

2018-06-22 22:53:08 UTC  

Cheers 😁 @Anomie

2018-06-22 22:53:08 UTC  

You can learn from being wrong