Message from @PastPresentFuture

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2018-06-22 21:51:48 UTC  

Hehe

2018-06-22 21:52:49 UTC  

I say that men who have anger are beta because it’s the truth. It’s just a funny way to phrase it.

2018-06-22 21:54:16 UTC  

In reality anyone to carries or holds onto anger is living under that illusion. If they’re comfortable with that so be it, but it will erode and cause problems down the line. I know that from experience.

2018-06-22 21:54:27 UTC  

Anger has NEVER helped me in life.

2018-06-22 21:56:17 UTC  

no doubt anger can be destructive as all fuck. it's never helped me either - in fact it's taken me further away from who i need to be. the anger didn't make me feel beta though, or womanly, or of the devil. for example: i used to be really into debating when i was younger, and i was very naive, ill-informed and misled, in that i only wanted to win a debate, not learn from this person or journey with them to new insight. i used to say i got so fired up because i was passionate for the talk, but really, it's because i was stupid

2018-06-22 21:56:34 UTC  

i noticed that i could stay on track in a debate until i got angry, at which point i'd get dirty as hell with it

2018-06-22 21:57:34 UTC  

i worked on my anger. i'm pretty free of the bullshit it used to throw up in my brain

2018-06-22 21:58:20 UTC  

i just bring that up as an addition to what you said, ppf. now i think there wasn't much point, lol

2018-06-22 21:58:47 UTC  

i wanted to ask if it's possible for someone to feel angry in response to a given situation without necessarily "having anger," in the sense of carrying it around with them etc

2018-06-22 22:07:23 UTC  

Anomie I understand 200% , I also notice a moment right before I am about to blow tf up, where it if I just pay attention I don't act like an out of control woman

2018-06-22 22:08:38 UTC  

yeah csquare, i'm with you on that one. a distinction someone made for me which really helped was that between a reaction and a response, and how, in tense situations, you might need to take a few seconds before engaging something, so you formulate a proper response instead of just reacting

2018-06-22 22:08:44 UTC  

Whew this is hard to articulate but I will try

2018-06-22 22:09:05 UTC  

respect, ppf

2018-06-22 22:15:10 UTC  

I'm at home with my seeds, I'll look at yall later

2018-06-22 22:20:46 UTC  

Having anger and not having anger is black and white, no grey area; from my experience in the situation that requires a quick response and would “normally” provoke anger or rage it came down to discerning reality. It’s very complex to put into words but in the heat of the moment I stay calm and in control, i let emotions go through me without holding onto it, the devil (the deceiver, the negative energy/chi/darkness/the lie/ etc.) tries to fill me with doubt or persuade me to ignore reality and associate and link memories, feelings, pride, whatever to convince me that the lie is reality. If I buy into that lie I would garner anger and it will lead me to ruin. If I doubt the doubt I can see reality clearly, I can understand the situation and the pressure/need for anger disappears. Even in the event that I need to defend myself physically I can act without anger.

2018-06-22 22:21:18 UTC  

Anger comes from the devil

2018-06-22 22:21:30 UTC  

The devil used women to get to the man

2018-06-22 22:22:37 UTC  

Women aren’t inherently evil, but are used by evil to pull others away from good. Like men, most women are unaware of what they do.

2018-06-22 22:23:23 UTC  

Good women are influenced by good men and are able to function perfectly

2018-06-22 22:24:13 UTC  

Bad women are or were influenced by bad and weak men. Women hate and resent a weak man and that destroys a woman... And the poison spreads.

2018-06-22 22:27:13 UTC  

Later csquare ✌️

2018-06-22 22:34:35 UTC  

ah, ppf, ty for answering. i'm in a skype call. give me 5-10, then i'll read

2018-06-22 22:34:44 UTC  

It is possible to see the anger coming and cast it away. In time the initial feeling of anger won’t even exist. You will have peace

2018-06-22 22:34:50 UTC  

No problem man

2018-06-22 22:41:04 UTC  

You literally have to love the hell out of your wife

2018-06-22 22:41:45 UTC  

Literally love the hell OUT of your wife

2018-06-22 22:43:01 UTC  

Hah that's it

2018-06-22 22:44:10 UTC  

Not sure if I’m coming in this with the correct context but I’d like to join the discussion. I find that I rarely have anger, these days especially. What I do feel is nervous energy, trembling etc, when in certain situations that would usually have sparked anger in the past. I feel nervous because I want to respond appropriately, stand my ground if necessary, but also not respond the way the person or situation expects me to. I usually feel peace afterwards when I successfully skirt anger. But there is an energy there that is powerful in the moment for me. Speaking usually about debate or tough conversations.

2018-06-22 22:45:28 UTC  

Sounds like joy

2018-06-22 22:46:06 UTC  

Like conversations with black children of the lie especially. They have so much hate for me. I try to come from a place of love when I explain what’s wrong in black culture and society. I think maybe I’m nervous that I won’t succeed in defeating the hate they feel

2018-06-22 22:46:15 UTC  

Hate me*

2018-06-22 22:47:06 UTC  

If they do nothing of value will be lost

2018-06-22 22:47:12 UTC  

You know that

2018-06-22 22:47:15 UTC  

I dunno what typo I just corrected 😂

2018-06-22 22:48:32 UTC  

I do feel that changing minds is valuable. Maybe that’s where it comes from, I want to express myself clearly and nervous that maybe I will be misunderstood

2018-06-22 22:50:11 UTC  

Things like standing my ground are easy to do without getting angry because I know the difference between being assertive and being angry and being bullied as a kid taught me not to let people push me around. But a battle of the wits is sometimes tricky for me.

2018-06-22 22:51:00 UTC  

Lol

2018-06-22 22:51:05 UTC  

Maybe it’s the fear of being misunderstood and the other party spiraling into anger and attacking you? (Not just physical attacks)

2018-06-22 22:51:22 UTC  

Maybe it is fear

2018-06-22 22:51:51 UTC  

Fear is another form of anger. Essentially fear is born from resentment or anger from the past.

2018-06-22 22:52:00 UTC  

Ah I see