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Restate I lost the plot

Philosophically, in general

Regardless of what the goal is, should the path be the goal?

I think this constant disavowal of the Nazis is kind of sad and lacking in integrity. Everyone knows the WN love the nazis but they know they can't associate with it. It's an unfortunate position to be in

@whiic How come you and Hitler both drank water?

Uh I don’t quite follow sorry @ETBrooD

@lungfish Not really

It's a philosophical question

Many WN detest Nazis

Whatever your goal is

Like the ends justify the means?

Do you agree that your path towards the goal should be the same as the goal itself?

its an unfortunate feat of bad genes that they think that way @lungfish

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Specifically libertarian race realist types

@Monstrous Moonshine Many Revolutionary Communists detest Anarchocommunists and many of them detest Antifa.

"The ends justify the means" would be the opposite of path = goal

Doesn't make them that different, just tribal.

If they detest Nazis it's mainly over nuances, or their failure on Russia, or something to that effect

And mostly that detestation is performative; many of them (like me) have watched The Greatest Story Never Told

So like the goal should be to follow a good path? @ETBrooD

No, what I mean is this

Yeah, usual WN arguments against nazis aren't policies, it's strategic shortcoming of Hitler, loss to Slavs, not winning the war.

@lungfish It is over many things. Most of America was essentially WN till 1965, yet none of those would've had particular obsession with Nazis

And because tribally they want to be American variant of that, not pro-Germany.

where the blacks justifed in running out all the white people in south afrrica?

That's why they say USA was national socialists in the 40's.

And they kinda were. They had racial concentration camps.

Humans are tribal by nature

damn japs

There was an American Nazi movement which was reasonably successful but when we went to war with Germany that all ended because it was no longer acceptable to the mainstream

And nigger cannonfodder squads.

Using niggers like Imperial Guard.

the way god meant it to be

If your goal is, lets say, to put freedom above all, for example.
Is it ok to - on your way towards said freedom - infringe on some freedom, or not?

You can interchange "freedom" with anything else

When WN say they are not nazis, they mean they are "the good, American kind of nazi".

Policy wise, what is the difference?

AFAIK, same game, different teams.

So basically, my goal is a ethnostate, would it be ok to hurt...