Message from @Sq crcl

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2019-11-18 11:28:15 UTC  

Women should marry at 14 and have a child every year until they are 35, change my mind

2019-11-18 11:28:29 UTC  

So, women who have a bit of a history of fucking many random men *not* doing well when it comes to stable committed monogamy really doesn't shock me.

2019-11-18 11:28:56 UTC  

However if you look at it through r/K selection, it applies closer to your original suggestion

2019-11-18 11:29:01 UTC  

For the sake of social order I think men ought to show self-discipline in that regard too but it's nowhere near as catastrophic if they *don't*.

2019-11-18 11:29:31 UTC  

Although for men to do so necessitates female involvement so if a man fucks twelve women then that's twelve women who can add one more pre-martial sex partner to their list.

2019-11-18 11:30:14 UTC  

I forget which is which, 'r' is a small number of children given many resources right?

2019-11-18 11:30:24 UTC  

Rabbit r

2019-11-18 11:30:31 UTC  

And 'K' is many children with minimal resources?

2019-11-18 11:30:33 UTC  

Oh.

2019-11-18 11:30:39 UTC  

So humans are K selection.

2019-11-18 11:30:50 UTC  

No, few with max involvement

2019-11-18 11:31:05 UTC  

Humans can be both

2019-11-18 11:31:10 UTC  

Well, I still think this applies to the natural human sexual selection.

2019-11-18 11:31:29 UTC  

The state of nature that dictated human mating patterns also killed about 50% of children before the age of 1.

2019-11-18 11:31:39 UTC  

Regardless of resource input.

2019-11-18 11:31:52 UTC  

That's not how it works. Humans are K. As most mammals are.

2019-11-18 11:32:17 UTC  

If a man wanted to ensure his line continued, it behooved him to have sex with many young, fertile women. And to do that required him to possess the resources that each female sought for her singular offspring.

2019-11-18 11:32:30 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/645949443115581443/unknown-5.png

2019-11-18 11:32:35 UTC  

So... of 20 potential children, 10 would die before the age of 1.

2019-11-18 11:32:41 UTC  

Less than 5 would probably make it to adulthood.

2019-11-18 11:32:41 UTC  

It kinda does.

Think of ppl buying luxuries and living of aid but having many offsprings

Vs.

A high IQ couple maybe having babies when the woman is 35+

2019-11-18 11:33:02 UTC  

Of course as society progressed humans stopped having as many children. Enough to counter the mortality rate but that was it.

2019-11-18 11:33:09 UTC  

Whites are k selected I question if nigs are

2019-11-18 11:33:35 UTC  

Estimated female fertility rate in the early Roman Empire was between 6 and 9 children per woman.

2019-11-18 11:33:43 UTC  

Most died before adulthood.

2019-11-18 11:33:43 UTC  

Some being closer to r than others doesn't make them k, when it's 80% vs 80.5%

2019-11-18 11:34:00 UTC  

There's r/K amongst every human ethnic group, the DISTRIBUTION is very different however historically and according to current trends

2019-11-18 11:34:08 UTC  

And that was a *monogamous* arrangement.

2019-11-18 11:34:14 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/645949877406269441/IMG_20191118_101621.jpg

2019-11-18 11:34:22 UTC  

There's indications that a few thousand years before that, for every 1 male reproducing 17 females were.

2019-11-18 11:34:38 UTC  

And it's also estimated that as many as 2/3rds of European men can be traced to just three male ancestors.

2019-11-18 11:35:00 UTC  

So anime harems are accurate...

2019-11-18 11:35:28 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/645950189852426280/unknown.png

2019-11-18 11:35:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/645950201298944015/67973694_2459865637627229_8397354838337257472_n.jpg

2019-11-18 11:35:32 UTC  

Male concentration of resources to ensure mating success through diverting resources to a large number of women who used them to further their own individual children was more or less the most reliable way for a man to have kids before monogamy.

2019-11-18 11:36:19 UTC  

Polygamy vs monogamy is just a question of whether you want a general guarantee of access to one woman, or the potential for access to many with the risk of dying childless.

2019-11-18 11:36:29 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/645950445377814568/image0-21.png

2019-11-18 11:36:49 UTC  

Personally I think monogamy is better for social order.

2019-11-18 11:36:53 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/645950552642945045/chterkaismus.png

2019-11-18 11:37:20 UTC  

But if unchecked by regulations like banning no-fault divorce or permitting adultery and pre-marital sex, men with the most resources will create harems out of women because women will in a state of nature want to do so.

2019-11-18 11:37:21 UTC  

Christianity allowed for stability as lower class males were more likely to mate