Message from @Sq crcl
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Women should marry at 14 and have a child every year until they are 35, change my mind
So, women who have a bit of a history of fucking many random men *not* doing well when it comes to stable committed monogamy really doesn't shock me.
However if you look at it through r/K selection, it applies closer to your original suggestion
For the sake of social order I think men ought to show self-discipline in that regard too but it's nowhere near as catastrophic if they *don't*.
Although for men to do so necessitates female involvement so if a man fucks twelve women then that's twelve women who can add one more pre-martial sex partner to their list.
I forget which is which, 'r' is a small number of children given many resources right?
Rabbit r
And 'K' is many children with minimal resources?
Oh.
So humans are K selection.
No, few with max involvement
Humans can be both
Well, I still think this applies to the natural human sexual selection.
The state of nature that dictated human mating patterns also killed about 50% of children before the age of 1.
Regardless of resource input.
That's not how it works. Humans are K. As most mammals are.
If a man wanted to ensure his line continued, it behooved him to have sex with many young, fertile women. And to do that required him to possess the resources that each female sought for her singular offspring.
So... of 20 potential children, 10 would die before the age of 1.
Less than 5 would probably make it to adulthood.
It kinda does.
Think of ppl buying luxuries and living of aid but having many offsprings
Vs.
A high IQ couple maybe having babies when the woman is 35+
Of course as society progressed humans stopped having as many children. Enough to counter the mortality rate but that was it.
Whites are k selected I question if nigs are
Estimated female fertility rate in the early Roman Empire was between 6 and 9 children per woman.
Most died before adulthood.
Some being closer to r than others doesn't make them k, when it's 80% vs 80.5%
There's r/K amongst every human ethnic group, the DISTRIBUTION is very different however historically and according to current trends
And that was a *monogamous* arrangement.
There's indications that a few thousand years before that, for every 1 male reproducing 17 females were.
And it's also estimated that as many as 2/3rds of European men can be traced to just three male ancestors.
So anime harems are accurate...
Male concentration of resources to ensure mating success through diverting resources to a large number of women who used them to further their own individual children was more or less the most reliable way for a man to have kids before monogamy.
Polygamy vs monogamy is just a question of whether you want a general guarantee of access to one woman, or the potential for access to many with the risk of dying childless.
Personally I think monogamy is better for social order.
But if unchecked by regulations like banning no-fault divorce or permitting adultery and pre-marital sex, men with the most resources will create harems out of women because women will in a state of nature want to do so.
Christianity allowed for stability as lower class males were more likely to mate