Message from @Sq crcl

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2019-11-18 11:25:28 UTC  

I think he means somebody who has a spous, who has sex with their not spous

2019-11-18 11:25:30 UTC  

Well pre-marital sex is different because marriage assumes a responsibility of fidelity to one another.

2019-11-18 11:25:41 UTC  

I'd ideally discourage pre-marital sex though.

2019-11-18 11:25:48 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/645947747647619073/protestant_doge.jpg

2019-11-18 11:25:54 UTC  

Particularly for women as increased numbers of pre-marital sex partners correlates to lower marriage success rates.

2019-11-18 11:26:19 UTC  

For women
Not that much for men

2019-11-18 11:26:20 UTC  

In that case I'd make a fucking banging husband

2019-11-18 11:26:36 UTC  

It doesn't really apply as much to men due to sexual evolution I think.

2019-11-18 11:27:04 UTC  

Male sexual selection is more polygamous when in a state of nature. Female can't really afford to be.

2019-11-18 11:27:08 UTC  

Nor is it practical.

2019-11-18 11:27:24 UTC  

A man could hypothetically impregnate a dozen women in just a few days or less depending on his recovery rate.

2019-11-18 11:27:32 UTC  

A woman can only carry one man's child at a time for 9 months.

2019-11-18 11:27:33 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/645948195394027520/IMG_20191118_111321.jpg

2019-11-18 11:27:49 UTC  

And if she's going around fucking other men then that male will have no guarantee the child is his and won't have anything to do with her.

2019-11-18 11:28:15 UTC  

Women should marry at 14 and have a child every year until they are 35, change my mind

2019-11-18 11:28:29 UTC  

So, women who have a bit of a history of fucking many random men *not* doing well when it comes to stable committed monogamy really doesn't shock me.

2019-11-18 11:28:56 UTC  

However if you look at it through r/K selection, it applies closer to your original suggestion

2019-11-18 11:29:01 UTC  

For the sake of social order I think men ought to show self-discipline in that regard too but it's nowhere near as catastrophic if they *don't*.

2019-11-18 11:29:31 UTC  

Although for men to do so necessitates female involvement so if a man fucks twelve women then that's twelve women who can add one more pre-martial sex partner to their list.

2019-11-18 11:30:14 UTC  

I forget which is which, 'r' is a small number of children given many resources right?

2019-11-18 11:30:24 UTC  

Rabbit r

2019-11-18 11:30:31 UTC  

And 'K' is many children with minimal resources?

2019-11-18 11:30:33 UTC  

Oh.

2019-11-18 11:30:39 UTC  

So humans are K selection.

2019-11-18 11:30:50 UTC  

No, few with max involvement

2019-11-18 11:31:05 UTC  

Humans can be both

2019-11-18 11:31:10 UTC  

Well, I still think this applies to the natural human sexual selection.

2019-11-18 11:31:29 UTC  

The state of nature that dictated human mating patterns also killed about 50% of children before the age of 1.

2019-11-18 11:31:39 UTC  

Regardless of resource input.

2019-11-18 11:31:52 UTC  

That's not how it works. Humans are K. As most mammals are.

2019-11-18 11:32:17 UTC  

If a man wanted to ensure his line continued, it behooved him to have sex with many young, fertile women. And to do that required him to possess the resources that each female sought for her singular offspring.

2019-11-18 11:32:30 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/645949443115581443/unknown-5.png

2019-11-18 11:32:35 UTC  

So... of 20 potential children, 10 would die before the age of 1.

2019-11-18 11:32:41 UTC  

Less than 5 would probably make it to adulthood.

2019-11-18 11:32:41 UTC  

It kinda does.

Think of ppl buying luxuries and living of aid but having many offsprings

Vs.

A high IQ couple maybe having babies when the woman is 35+

2019-11-18 11:33:02 UTC  

Of course as society progressed humans stopped having as many children. Enough to counter the mortality rate but that was it.

2019-11-18 11:33:09 UTC  

Whites are k selected I question if nigs are

2019-11-18 11:33:35 UTC  

Estimated female fertility rate in the early Roman Empire was between 6 and 9 children per woman.

2019-11-18 11:33:43 UTC  

Most died before adulthood.

2019-11-18 11:33:43 UTC  

Some being closer to r than others doesn't make them k, when it's 80% vs 80.5%

2019-11-18 11:34:00 UTC  

There's r/K amongst every human ethnic group, the DISTRIBUTION is very different however historically and according to current trends