Mesopotamia is often regarded as the cradle of civilisation, or the fertile crescent in general which does include Egypt.

Sumer and Egypt are contestants for oldest civilisation but it really depends how you define the word.

@fvriovs you're a *homo*

Dont be a cuck guys

There are the younger dryas catastrophy theories too

Thank you jack, haha.

@Danacrag such people disgust me

I had a friend that was a cuck

She treated him poorly

I definitely wouldn't rule it out, that there was advanced civ in africa before end of younger dryas

I really, really don't like that shit

If your wife is having sex with other guys she isnt a good wife

I'm skeptical of that @leavethisbotnet.

It's only after the Younger Dryas that agriculture became possible.

Coinciding with the start of the Neolithic.

The flood myths are definitely something that makes me a lot less sceptical

And agriculture has been more or less necessary for advanced civilisation.

@leavethisbotnet of?

My favourite conundrum

https://infogalactic.com/info/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe

Many of the myths do talk about a civilization that was swept away by the (usually) flood

It's no coincidence that major civilisations always emerged around fertile rivers. The Nile, Tigris and Euphrates, whatever the Chinese one is called.

I do like that site Sq.

12,000 years old.

Impressive.

@leavethisbotnet They do, but I wouldn't put too much stock in how the myths assess their own ancestry.

Medieval artists were depicting scenes from the Bronze Age Bible with everyone in medieval armour

The Sumerian King List goes back over 200,000 years.

I'm not convinced these people actually had a concept of pre-civilisation.

So whilst there may have been oral traditions of a flood or higher sea levels.

The actual specifics of how people lived were lost.

Just saying

Most of red sea used to be land before end of Y.D.

sahara did not exist

To my knowledge the Sahara cycles.

Well ok, _in Y.D._ it didn't exist

Agriculture as far as we know has only been enabled for the past 12-11,000 years.

Coinciding to the end of the Y.D