Message from @Sq crcl

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2019-11-18 21:28:03 UTC  

and you dropped the ball with the aristotelianism earlier

2019-11-18 21:28:07 UTC  

so

2019-11-18 21:28:35 UTC  

I'll engage in this discussion but given this is the Wall channel I'm not beholden to professionalism.

2019-11-18 21:28:43 UTC  

No, but respect and integrity are virtues that produce tolerance. Is that accurate?

2019-11-18 21:28:46 UTC  

no

2019-11-18 21:28:51 UTC  

Not really.

The problem I'm having is that I like to see where people come from and how they got to a certain conclusion and that with you I cannot see

2019-11-18 21:29:00 UTC  

Integrity does not beget tolerance, certainly.

2019-11-18 21:29:21 UTC  

respect and tolerance are two very different things my guy

2019-11-18 21:29:21 UTC  

Tolerance deals with the compromising away of principles, whilst integrity has to do with holding fast to principles.

2019-11-18 21:29:36 UTC  

Respect doesn't require tolerance but it produces a similar effect.

2019-11-18 21:29:37 UTC  

Some

2019-11-18 21:29:46 UTC  

If you respect someone, you don't shoo them away.

2019-11-18 21:29:55 UTC  

But that doesn't mean you tolerate a certain thing.

2019-11-18 21:30:05 UTC  

I respect some homosexuals, for instance, but don't tolerate their homosexuality.

2019-11-18 21:30:11 UTC  

Frederick the Great, for instance.

2019-11-18 21:30:38 UTC  

I respect the man and thus would not speak lowly of him, especially not to his face were I so privileged to meet the Prussian Ruler.

2019-11-18 21:30:52 UTC  

Respect, however, is earned.

2019-11-18 21:30:58 UTC  

Tolerance is wantonly distributed.

2019-11-18 21:30:58 UTC  

You can tolerate to listen to a homosexual friend of yours telling you about his day, can't you?

2019-11-18 21:31:23 UTC  

If he were a friend, he would have earned my respect. That's not tolerance.

2019-11-18 21:31:30 UTC  

His homosexuality wouldn't factor.

2019-11-18 21:31:35 UTC  

Hahaha, it's that

2019-11-18 21:31:42 UTC  

I wouldn't tolerate his homosexuality and he would know this.

2019-11-18 21:31:50 UTC  

Our friendship wouldn't hinge on that, however.

2019-11-18 21:31:54 UTC  

we post memes here, sirs

2019-11-18 21:31:58 UTC  

I have a very close pagan friend, for instance.

2019-11-18 21:32:02 UTC  

He knows I think his gods are demons

2019-11-18 21:32:06 UTC  

Respect gives you tolerance as well

2019-11-18 21:32:10 UTC  

We're still friends because he has earned my respect.

2019-11-18 21:32:18 UTC  

To tolerate someone is not the false-virtue of tolerance.

2019-11-18 21:32:24 UTC  

This is a failure of the English language.

2019-11-18 21:32:40 UTC  

It's causality, nothing less

2019-11-18 21:33:27 UTC  

To make a compromise, I think what Leviathan and I may be referring to is rather *acceptance,* would you say so, Leviathan?

2019-11-18 21:33:33 UTC  

Tolerance vs. Acceptance.

2019-11-18 21:33:37 UTC  

Of the blind varietal

tbh this entire argument may as well be a meme of itself

Or a how-to on how not to go into an argument misinformed