@Apple O'Day Communism isn't "when everyone gets the same wage"

Communism seeks to abolish wage slavery altogether

"Firstly. A general rise in the rate of wages would result in a fall of the general rate of profit, but, broadly speaking, not affect the prices of commodities.
Secondly. The general tendency of capitalist production is not to raise, but to sink the average standard of wages.
Thirdly. Trades Unions work well as centers of resistance against the encroachments of capital. They fail partially from an injudicious use of their power. They fail generally from limiting themselves to a guerilla war against the effects of the existing system, instead of simultaneously trying to change it, instead of using their organized forces as a lever for the final emancipation of the working class that is to say the ultimate abolition of the wages system." - (Marx, "Value, price and profit")

Here are some books by Marx on the subject of wages https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/value-price-profit.pdf

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/

They're both pretty short

yeah what he said

like it always makes me cringe when people say that in communism janitors would be paid the same as doctors

Pretty ridiculous isn't it

yeah

All workers who work in that workplace also own it

And doctors and janitors don't work in the same place

well janitors can work in hospitals

The reason doctors and lawyers make so much money is because they literally own their own means of production and have control of their workplace

And so of course the rest of the capitalist system has to keep up with this

And so doctors would be usually paid that much in other places due to the market

i personally want to become a lawyer and eventually become a judge

And defend the rich in court?

well you got do what you got to do

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The nigga Sankara

wtf

totally

@Borzo your second point has been *proven* wrong by history. wages do not fall, but rise. marx was wrong.

thanks though

maybe ill look at that more

No it isn't

saying no doesn't make it false

or

true

The only reason that wages have risen is that it goes against the capitalist mode of production

Because they are afraid of revolution

And so they have to increase wages to push away that potential revolution

Forced to increase living standards to appease the proletariat

However, wages ever drop today

And are continually dropping

Because that threat of revolution is no longer around

Due to the fall of the Soviet Union mainly

Let us now seriously consider the main cases in which a rise of wages is attempted or a reduction of wages resisted.

1. We have seen that the value of the labouring power, or in more popular parlance, the value of labour, is determined by the value of necessaries, or the quantity of labour required to produce them.