Message from @n-

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2019-05-31 09:23:57 UTC  

Please read

2019-05-31 09:24:00 UTC  

Never read it, no

2019-05-31 09:24:15 UTC  

I’m sorry, centralism is not up my alley

2019-05-31 09:24:31 UTC  

So much effort just for you

2019-05-31 09:24:36 UTC  

comrade!

2019-05-31 09:24:37 UTC  

If it floats your boat more power to you

2019-05-31 09:25:26 UTC  

Now you can read it both <#308951630328627200> and #english http://proriv.ru/articles.shtml?issue_62

2019-05-31 09:26:02 UTC  

I believe that we all have preferences and my preference is decentralized horizontal society that voluntarily organizes itself, and centralism really doesn’t connect with me

2019-05-31 09:27:22 UTC  

Is no matter what are your preferences but inability to organize a democratic party will lead to an ability to organize authoritarian.

2019-05-31 09:27:39 UTC  

But on the different note, I would enjoy banning the fash, if you can grant me that power, I will use it to our common advantage

2019-05-31 09:27:50 UTC  

If democratic party cant hold power, then we're sorry.

2019-05-31 09:28:02 UTC  

Oh, I am all for organizing democratic parties

2019-05-31 09:28:57 UTC  

I just don’t believe in *the only party* that is a vanguard of proletariat

2019-05-31 09:29:04 UTC  

Is like 2% of people support

2019-05-31 09:29:51 UTC  

I would love to have ten left wing parties competing for power

2019-05-31 09:30:17 UTC  

Is not necessary. We're not into competition.

2019-05-31 09:30:21 UTC  

With demsoc being considered right wing

2019-05-31 09:30:24 UTC  

Only cooperation.

2019-05-31 09:30:41 UTC  

Only one party is needed

2019-05-31 09:30:49 UTC  

Well, here I disagree again

2019-05-31 09:31:04 UTC  

Even Lenin has different fractions in his party

2019-05-31 09:31:19 UTC  

If you don't like to cooperate you have to compete.

2019-05-31 09:31:33 UTC  

We excluded factions in the end.

2019-05-31 09:32:10 UTC  

Is not time for factions.

2019-05-31 09:32:27 UTC  

Very small amount of people capable of democracy.

2019-05-31 09:33:00 UTC  

Most people are unjust, selfish and aggressive.

2019-05-31 09:33:21 UTC  

Most people don't know how to run the country

2019-05-31 09:33:50 UTC  

Why would you let people who don't know anything a government position?

2019-05-31 09:34:20 UTC  

Here lie our fundamental differences that we can’t bridge

2019-05-31 09:34:38 UTC  

Do you go to doctor who doesn't know how to do surgery?

2019-05-31 09:34:43 UTC  

@n- Democratic Socialism isn't right wing unless if you are talking about American "Democratic Socialism" which is just welfare capitalism.

2019-05-31 09:34:50 UTC  

Is a strong disagreement.

2019-05-31 09:35:15 UTC  

Multiple parties are a part of bourgeois democracy.

2019-05-31 09:35:39 UTC  

Proletarian democracy is achieved through worker councils.

2019-05-31 09:35:52 UTC  

And the partys task is to protect them, not control them.

2019-05-31 09:35:57 UTC  

@Volya~ you misunderstand - my ideal society would be one where demsocs are considered right wing because everyone shifted left

2019-05-31 09:36:10 UTC  

Oh.

2019-05-31 09:36:35 UTC  

Actually just refer to them as Welfare Capitalists.

2019-05-31 09:36:38 UTC  

I still think that even than you would have a spectrum of opinions, hence multiple parties

2019-05-31 09:36:54 UTC  

The word "socialist" doesnt fit their purposes.

2019-05-31 09:37:18 UTC  

You don't have to have a party for every opinion