Message from @OF-8

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2017-05-11 22:34:24 UTC  

awesome video...container bombs are the new bomb vest,,,wait and see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTrBDJGySm0

2017-05-11 22:38:29 UTC  

>i can post some memes to insult you if you wish it

2017-05-11 22:38:35 UTC  

I DO WISH

2017-05-11 22:39:16 UTC  
2017-05-12 00:58:41 UTC  

"Clone factories would advance faster than computers. "@Firefly 👌 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W1aT8IsDKg

2017-05-12 01:05:54 UTC  

Welcome to /leftypol/ a low-moderation channel. Feel yourself free here.

2017-05-12 01:44:59 UTC  

Zionism is not the same as NatSoc. The content of Nationalism depends on the character of the people. Supremacy is not implied. For example Tibetan Nationalism is different than Jewish Nationalism. Zionism is definitely imperialist, racist, religious, bigoted according to the mythology of the jewish character. It is also possible for a NatSoc society to have the opposite characteristics of this. Primarily National Socialism is concerned with raising the consciousness of the people according to a specific mythological character. This can vary greatly.

2017-05-12 01:47:37 UTC  

What is the result?

2017-05-12 01:48:45 UTC  

No, that's Fascism. NatSoc can be pacifist.

2017-05-12 01:55:11 UTC  

The struggle is spiritual, not necessarily violent. Fascism is concerned with preservation. NatSoc may not care. It seems like a contradiction, but self-destruction can be apart of a mythology.

2017-05-12 02:03:01 UTC  

In this way the spiritually pure are immune from failure. NatSoc is devotional. Fascism is much more rigid in its victory conditions.

2017-05-12 02:08:31 UTC  

Zionism isn't Fascist either. It is simply Jewish Nationalism.

2017-05-12 02:26:46 UTC  

To me, this is why Lunacharsky's God-Building is so interesting. It attempts to create a mythology for the state just like NatSoc does. Lunacharsky however does not use religion as an ends it self, but dialectically as apart of the progress of humanity. In many ways this formation is superior to a National Socialist's approach, because it is more concerned reality with greater emphasis on the objective. It balances the utility and focus of Fascism with the strong values and vision of National Socialism.

2017-05-12 02:30:15 UTC  

It holds that the higher state of humanity has no need for religion but also provides a pathway to get there.

2017-05-12 02:31:23 UTC  

assuming the state is capable of religioncraft

2017-05-12 02:31:31 UTC  

which is always a mistake

2017-05-12 02:33:04 UTC  

You could say the same about the state running a fully socialist system.

2017-05-12 02:33:16 UTC  

I do so often.

2017-05-12 02:33:29 UTC  

It certainly hasn't happened yet.

2017-05-12 02:34:22 UTC  

But what if the state was fully capable?

2017-05-12 02:34:45 UTC  

lmfao

2017-05-12 02:35:00 UTC  

>what if the state was fully capable?

2017-05-12 02:35:06 UTC  

my fukin sides m8

2017-05-12 02:35:13 UTC  

have you ever met a bureaucrat?

2017-05-12 02:35:28 UTC  

they wouldnt know logos if they were run over by narcissus' rock

2017-05-12 02:35:40 UTC  

it could never actually happen

2017-05-12 02:35:45 UTC  

Answer the question. If the state was fully capable, what would you think of socialism then?

2017-05-12 02:35:55 UTC  

Stagnant.

2017-05-12 02:36:13 UTC  

It seems an ideology only supported by suppressing other ideologies.

2017-05-12 02:36:23 UTC  

I.E. this dialectic garbage

2017-05-12 02:37:06 UTC  

Does the truth suppress falsehood?

2017-05-12 02:37:29 UTC  

Logos arises, there's no other way to put it.

2017-05-12 02:37:50 UTC  

Do we? Are you making a naturalistic fallacy?

2017-05-12 02:38:14 UTC  

n=1

2017-05-12 02:39:07 UTC  

hahaa

2017-05-12 02:39:20 UTC  

if pedantry wasnt a feature we wouldnt be speaking in marxist terms

2017-05-12 02:39:45 UTC  

of course the socialists are grammar nazis, they're all english majors scared of being unable to produce in modern global capitalist society

2017-05-12 02:40:04 UTC  

so instead of sorting themselves out they push this gay ass marxist-leninist garbage through the colleges

2017-05-12 02:41:07 UTC  

Returning to my question. What would be bad about a fully capable socialist state?

2017-05-12 02:41:17 UTC  

Absolute cultural and social stagnation

2017-05-12 02:41:32 UTC  

Which would cause this state to be overthrown by a superior external entity,.