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2017-05-15 01:06:54 UTC  

> tfw my formerly liberal boyfriend is slowly radicalizing

2017-05-15 01:07:31 UTC  

he's bitching to me about united states imperialism >:)

2017-05-15 01:07:51 UTC  

Who owns the means of production in current America

2017-05-15 01:07:59 UTC  

"but maddy, we have to teach the savages using bombs!"

2017-05-15 01:08:09 UTC  

@★ Commissar Regi ★
The US government.

2017-05-15 01:08:39 UTC  

Is it possible for corporations to own the means, if so what would this be called

2017-05-15 01:08:53 UTC  

Corporatocracy.

2017-05-15 01:09:07 UTC  

capitalism lmao

2017-05-15 01:09:11 UTC  

I see, thanks fam

2017-05-15 01:09:19 UTC  

hey guys, i'm new here and i don't really have any strong views of my own. i'm just here to gain some knowledge and insight ☺

2017-05-15 01:09:25 UTC  

^^^

2017-05-15 01:09:27 UTC  

Same

2017-05-15 01:09:35 UTC  

Corporatism is the merger of state and corporate power

2017-05-15 01:09:49 UTC  

which is what capitalism inherently devolves into

2017-05-15 01:10:30 UTC  

can you expand on the notion of "merging?" what does that mean in this context exactly? subsidies?

2017-05-15 01:10:33 UTC  

Yeah, capitalism gives corporations and monopolies too much opportunity for power

2017-05-15 01:10:55 UTC  

@dontchewglass
I argue that it isn't capitalism unless all transactions are exclusively private and voluntary, which implies a free market. Corporatism is what you end up with when you start a nation with a _preexisting_ government infrastructure to interfere in the economy and draw out taxes and impose regulations and fees in order to sustain itself, which wouldn't be capitalism since the entire infrastructure requires coercion in order to sustain.

2017-05-15 01:12:12 UTC  

@Tʜᴇ Sᴛᴜᴅʏ ᴏғ Cʜᴀɴɢᴇ#1345 "the fact that our perspective on our control of the world around us affects how we behave" Which is predetermined, not caused by 'free will'.

2017-05-15 01:12:33 UTC  

Do you guys even read Marx?

2017-05-15 01:12:44 UTC  

no, i'm new here 🤗

2017-05-15 01:13:00 UTC  

@Deleted User
No one argues for maximal autonomy. Also, I'm an anarcho-capitalist, lol.

2017-05-15 01:13:19 UTC  

Explains. Fair enough.

2017-05-15 01:13:41 UTC  

I essentially deny Marx and Engel's Dialectical Materialism framework of metaphysics.

2017-05-15 01:13:59 UTC  
2017-05-15 01:14:01 UTC  

lmao why is there an ancap in this chat

2017-05-15 01:14:25 UTC  

REEEEEE

2017-05-15 01:14:35 UTC  

>ancap

2017-05-15 01:14:46 UTC  

can someone give me a quick rundown on postmodernism? why is it so closely linked with leftist thinking? postmodernist and marxist have become synonymous from what i've seen at least

2017-05-15 01:14:53 UTC  

not that i've seen much tbh 😩

2017-05-15 01:15:01 UTC  

"an"cap

2017-05-15 01:15:12 UTC  

@Deleted User i'll bookmark it for later

2017-05-15 01:15:15 UTC  

ty

2017-05-15 01:15:29 UTC  

Ancap literally has the government get replaced by corporations, same thing tbh

2017-05-15 01:16:21 UTC  

@Mawk
Postmodernism can be summed up in one word: Deconstruction. What this means is that it's a framework of philosophy that questions and dismantles every single value system as a byproduct of history with no inherent merit. It's known now as Critical Theory.

2017-05-15 01:17:24 UTC  

@★ Commissar Regi ★
Difference between government and a business is that the government requires force, while a business requires the consumer's consent.

2017-05-15 01:17:25 UTC  

what would be an example of a value system?

2017-05-15 01:17:46 UTC  

does anyone have any clue of how one would hypothetically contact the IRPGF

2017-05-15 01:17:52 UTC  

Humanitarianism.
Utilitarianism.
Christian ethics.

2017-05-15 01:18:03 UTC  

ah ok

2017-05-15 01:18:04 UTC  

deontology

2017-05-15 01:18:11 UTC  

@Tʜᴇ Sᴛᴜᴅʏ ᴏғ Cʜᴀɴɢᴇ#1345 Corrrection: diamat is not metaphysics. It is scientific and objective.