Message from @Blebleh

Discord ID: 314506720892420098


2017-05-17 20:27:43 UTC  

@💵 Regi Zteel 💵#2709 All other German leaders policies coincide with USA financial interest for 20 years already

2017-05-17 20:29:30 UTC  

In a strange way Germoney is the one getting cucked

2017-05-17 20:29:41 UTC  

And USA is doing fine

2017-05-17 20:30:11 UTC  

What an interesting partnership of a cuck nation with their owner

2017-05-17 20:43:19 UTC  

The argument of neolibs isn't democratizing countries, more like stealing resources

2017-05-17 20:43:57 UTC  

Communists could agree that they'd need to push capitalism first before socialism to develop the country, from a transition from feudalism to capitalism for example

2017-05-17 20:44:02 UTC  

(Mao)

2017-05-17 20:44:25 UTC  

but from capitalism to socialism always

2017-05-17 20:44:37 UTC  

otherwise is revisionist (Deng Xiaoping)

2017-05-17 20:45:37 UTC  

there's a letter from a trot organization that says Marx didn't have a dogmatic view of the stages; but some people talk about stages

2017-05-17 20:46:30 UTC  

@Blebleh I think you can do both.

2017-05-17 20:46:48 UTC  

Socialism from the beginning or capitalism at first.

2017-05-17 20:48:14 UTC  

It wouldn't be a central planned economy in real time from the beginning, since it needs cybernetics

2017-05-17 20:49:25 UTC  

@Blebleh it can be socialist from the beginning with full nationalization and turmoil.

2017-05-17 20:49:45 UTC  

Some think it is a faster and better way.

2017-05-17 20:54:53 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/314506080837173248/round.png

2017-05-17 20:55:40 UTC  

What is that? @Blebleh

2017-05-17 20:56:33 UTC  

It's a chart from an old page, a competition between authors who took an inspiration from marxism

2017-05-17 20:56:45 UTC  

It's modified showing Hoxha as the winner

2017-05-17 20:57:25 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/314506720892420096/MM-Bracket-Winner.jpg

2017-05-17 20:57:25 UTC  

This was the original one

2017-05-17 20:59:31 UTC  
2017-05-17 20:59:38 UTC  

I respect a lot Hoxha for being the last standing true fighter. But I disagree with him.

2017-05-17 21:00:01 UTC  

Why?

2017-05-17 21:01:24 UTC  

Because of some difficulties in theory. Imperialism is possible only under capitalism and USSR was socialist, more socialist than anybody else.

2017-05-17 21:02:05 UTC  

Khruschev was a huge traitor to the class, but it doesn't make him imperialist.

2017-05-17 21:04:21 UTC  

It led to the restoration of capitalism in the USSR

2017-05-17 21:04:33 UTC  

while keeping the image, it's social imperialism

2017-05-17 21:05:19 UTC  

@Blebleh There were no imperialists in power.

2017-05-17 21:05:28 UTC  

Only idiots.

2017-05-17 21:05:47 UTC  

Revisionists who pushed capitalism

2017-05-17 21:05:55 UTC  
2017-05-17 21:06:19 UTC  

Without knowledge of what they were doing.

2017-05-17 21:06:53 UTC  

Brezhnev passed whole WW2 to defend socialism and communism.

2017-05-17 21:07:12 UTC  

But he was not the best in theory

2017-05-17 21:07:38 UTC  

That doesn't make him imperialist.

2017-05-17 21:09:40 UTC  

Most people on the left are the same.

2017-05-17 21:10:22 UTC  

They have hard time to study. It doesn't make one imperialist.

2017-05-17 21:10:26 UTC  

who disarmed the USSR?

2017-05-17 21:10:40 UTC  

and what about the perestroika of Gorbachev?