Everything pulls everything

no, if the party kept the socialist line

they wouldn't have been imperialist

@Blebleh The Party was dead after Stalin.

But it doesn't make a socialist country imperialist

Imperialism, the highest stage of capitalism

the policies from the party pulled monopolist capitalism

it doesn't matter if they had good heart... imperialism depends on the economy

@Blebleh Imperialism is subjective on top of economical basis. Economy and subjective force maybe different at the same time.

Hoxha also denounced the cubans

and also the maoists after a period of time

Communist subjectively can't be imperialist

Even some revisionists, like Brezhnev

I didn't understand the penultimate phrase

Imperialism is not purely economical

It requires people to force it upon others

If there is no such people than it is not imperialism.

It is forced with the state

@Blebleh State didn't have an imperialist agenda.

DEATH TO THE LEFT

imperialism isn't a program alone as let's invade countries

@Blebleh it is also not the economy alone.

it emerges from the conditions of capitalism, it requires a monopolist capitalism which was restored with Khruschev, and therefore he had to obey that kind of economy

no matter how much he tried to be good

like reforming capitalism in social democracy, it's limited

@Blebleh I disagree on this. USSR has been most socialist country in the world.

Even after Stalin.

I could agree

but most socialism now is welfare state

still capitalism

even some people criticize stalin as capitalist

because he couldn't remove the capitalist relations of production (for this we would need world socialism)

but if there's no bourgeoisie... it seems leftcom to me

So my point is Idiots are not necessarily imperialist.

A country being imperialist or not doesn't depend on idiocy or intentions

You could say that the party restored capitalism with good heart

and call them idiots

but still imperialism

Subjectivity is important. There is no subjectively imperialist = there is no imperialism.

China and Russia today can defend Syria

but it's still an imperialist bloc, just one with interests against the national bourgeoisie of the US and Europe