now just a national bourgeoisie more like China

Capitalists don't make communism arise, they make their own gravediggers, the proletariat

going a step backward when the planned economy is already built is treason

@Blebleh I've heard capitalism brings us to socialism.

But people need class consciousness first

and political organization

@Blebleh Treason by a man who gave his life for communism countless times?

@Blebleh I'm speaking of the objective side.

that doesn't matter; it lead to the restoration

no matter how he felt before

@Blebleh I first ask you to give your life for communism, before saying it doesn't matter

Its not the easy thing to do

Most critics never will do it

It's easy to criticize from your basement.

it isn't related to how he wasn't revisionist

a socdem can have a good heart

@Blebleh I stated 3 times already that he was.

yes, and why are you telling me that it's easy to criticize?

@Blebleh Because you claim he is imperialist.

I agree on revisionism.

that revisionism pulled imperialism

Everything pulls everything

no, if the party kept the socialist line

they wouldn't have been imperialist

@Blebleh The Party was dead after Stalin.

But it doesn't make a socialist country imperialist

Imperialism, the highest stage of capitalism

the policies from the party pulled monopolist capitalism

it doesn't matter if they had good heart... imperialism depends on the economy

@Blebleh Imperialism is subjective on top of economical basis. Economy and subjective force maybe different at the same time.

Hoxha also denounced the cubans

and also the maoists after a period of time

Communist subjectively can't be imperialist

Even some revisionists, like Brezhnev

I didn't understand the penultimate phrase

Imperialism is not purely economical

It requires people to force it upon others

If there is no such people than it is not imperialism.

It is forced with the state

@Blebleh State didn't have an imperialist agenda.

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