Message from @Blebleh

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2017-05-17 21:38:57 UTC  

it obeys the logic of capital not proletarian internationalism

2017-05-17 21:39:33 UTC  

@Blebleh There was no national bourgeoisie in power in USSR under Brezhnev.

2017-05-17 21:39:43 UTC  

Only revisionist scum

2017-05-17 21:42:45 UTC  

If you would trade openly for profit you would go to prison.

2017-05-17 21:43:37 UTC  

Even if you sell a cigarette

2017-05-17 21:44:12 UTC  

What kind of class of bourgeoisie in power is that?

2017-05-17 21:45:24 UTC  

It's almost like it's just a bunch of economic D&C

2017-05-17 21:46:26 UTC  

That can't possibly be, can it? I are all the facets of socialism just veils over a death cult?

2017-05-17 21:46:53 UTC  

Stalin denounced the cult of personality

2017-05-17 21:47:05 UTC  

And yet...

2017-05-17 21:47:08 UTC  

if something it was permitted

2017-05-17 21:47:26 UTC  

we have to know the melting point of the policies and they have heads

2017-05-17 21:47:51 UTC  

Aaah. So it is. And human suffering is the fuel for this crucible, yes?

2017-05-17 21:48:00 UTC  

@Blebleh I do not agree with this article.

2017-05-17 21:48:29 UTC  

human suffering isn't any fuel

2017-05-17 21:49:04 UTC  

in the USSR the life expectancy skyrocketed and the GDP growed, as well as the limitation of the labours of work

2017-05-17 21:49:24 UTC  

but I disagree with a tenet of leninism

2017-05-17 21:49:39 UTC  

That's the rumblings of an underground capitalist oligarchy booting up.

2017-05-17 21:50:30 UTC  

Human suffering as fuel for the crucible of socialism is a long used metaphor.

2017-05-17 21:50:54 UTC  

I think banning factions breeds revisionism because it removes the accountability and the culture of revision with the ones who are in charge

2017-05-17 21:50:57 UTC  

It comes from outside the dialectic, however, call it an "outside" joke.

2017-05-17 21:51:34 UTC  

Limiting the scope of your discussion to a few fantasy books also removes a lot of accountability

2017-05-17 21:51:39 UTC  

Trotskyists say that it was temporal

2017-05-17 21:51:44 UTC  

Lmfao

2017-05-17 21:51:46 UTC  

and pro-Stalin advocates say it wasn't

2017-05-17 21:52:02 UTC  

Who lived longer?

2017-05-17 21:52:08 UTC  

That was the correct socialist

2017-05-17 21:52:39 UTC  

I doubt that even in a temporal ban you could restore it again as you wanted

2017-05-17 21:52:49 UTC  

but what they discuss more is the thing of permanent revolution

2017-05-17 21:53:04 UTC  

and pro-Stalin people think that in this case, it isn't leninist and that it would kill the revolution

2017-05-17 21:53:31 UTC  

and then we have council communists

2017-05-17 21:53:35 UTC  

and bordigists

2017-05-17 21:57:33 UTC  

All that shut you just said is basically the cancer that ends each revolution before it may reach its second stable point. P

2017-05-17 21:58:17 UTC  

Or the other complimentary cancer; the fallacious notion that writhing every socialist revolution lies the pupae of a functional state.

2017-05-17 21:58:49 UTC  

*bordiga gets offended* 😛

2017-05-17 21:59:05 UTC  

Not once has this actually been the case. As we can see within every socialist revolution lies an impossible to sustain ideological terratoma

2017-05-17 21:59:50 UTC  

I get that you're making a certain type of joke, but no.

2017-05-17 22:01:27 UTC  

The mere fact that I'm speaking to a leftist means I've a very high tolerance for disgust.

2017-05-17 22:01:52 UTC  

The party has a clear theoretical line

2017-05-17 22:02:03 UTC  

an in an anarchist case we could use a platform and unions