Message from @Blebleh

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2017-05-17 22:24:09 UTC  

neither utopic socialists

2017-05-17 22:24:14 UTC  

You don't read religious texts.

2017-05-17 22:24:20 UTC  

I read both.

2017-05-17 22:24:27 UTC  

I read about catholicism

2017-05-17 22:24:31 UTC  

ex catholic

2017-05-17 22:24:39 UTC  

@OF-8 What books of Marx did you read?

2017-05-17 22:24:54 UTC  

Oh wow. So you saw how cucked the coptics got eh?

2017-05-17 22:25:34 UTC  

No

2017-05-17 22:25:48 UTC  

Then you didn't read about Catholicism.

2017-05-17 22:25:56 UTC  

Tfw shallow scholars

2017-05-17 22:26:09 UTC  

I was educated in catholicism

2017-05-17 22:26:16 UTC  

but I guess there are different sects

2017-05-17 22:26:29 UTC  

and what has islam to do with marxism?

2017-05-17 22:27:07 UTC  

You know. Lately I've been coming to Marx from secondary sources. My first and only pass through whatever was in that torrent was maybe six years ago.

2017-05-17 22:27:29 UTC  

I'm looking for an excuse to pick it back up, but I haven't found enough intelligence within Marxist dialectics.

2017-05-17 22:27:35 UTC  

@OF-8 You're reading Marx from the enemies of socialism

2017-05-17 22:27:39 UTC  

Usually this means I ought to leave it down.

2017-05-17 22:27:54 UTC  

@OF-8 Secondary sources merchanting you, brother. Read first hand information.

2017-05-17 22:28:00 UTC  

if you're a worker they're putting an ideology against your own interests

2017-05-17 22:28:00 UTC  

Why would not Marx be anti-socialism

2017-05-17 22:28:26 UTC  

Also is zizek and baidou anti socialist?

2017-05-17 22:28:51 UTC  

Marx says that religion is the opium of the people, when people are in misery

2017-05-17 22:28:57 UTC  

They search for Gods

2017-05-17 22:29:09 UTC  

to comfort themselves

2017-05-17 22:29:09 UTC  

The will never not search for gods

2017-05-17 22:29:10 UTC  

and not act

2017-05-17 22:29:27 UTC  

It is not a matter of comfort it is a primal human trait

2017-05-17 22:29:39 UTC  

This is marx' poison pill

2017-05-17 22:29:44 UTC  

@OF-8 If you never read first hand info you never know really. You can't make your own criticism

2017-05-17 22:29:47 UTC  

So Lenin in Marxism and religion says that we need to be patient for objective economic conditions, then I'll get away; but religion doesn't have to influence the party

2017-05-17 22:30:08 UTC  

I didn't say never read

2017-05-17 22:30:18 UTC  

I said looking for an excuse to make a second pass.

2017-05-17 22:30:29 UTC  

@OF-8 Which books did you read?

2017-05-17 22:30:37 UTC  

The Constitution of the USSR allowed religion but not against the aims of socialism, against women rights, that is, against socialist and progressive values

2017-05-17 22:30:41 UTC  

Whatever was in that torrent.

2017-05-17 22:30:52 UTC  

It was a stoned weekend idk. That's how I learn philo

2017-05-17 22:31:00 UTC  

@OF-8 You forgot the name of the book you've read?

2017-05-17 22:31:13 UTC  

I pirate stuff.

2017-05-17 22:31:29 UTC  

So I get a bunch of books at once and plow through em

2017-05-17 22:31:38 UTC  

First pass is "is this bullshit"