Message from @Blebleh

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2017-05-17 22:47:18 UTC  

It comes back to Marx in the most fucked up way

2017-05-17 22:47:29 UTC  

no, but from liberalism

2017-05-17 22:47:43 UTC  

private education is the problem, here public education is a treasure

2017-05-17 22:48:09 UTC  

I educated myself. It works.

2017-05-17 22:48:15 UTC  

you probably misunderstood marxism

2017-05-17 22:48:21 UTC  

Teach the kids how to learn

2017-05-17 22:48:27 UTC  

@OF-8 If you don't remember a book, you have to re-read.

2017-05-17 22:48:28 UTC  

@Blebleh that's my thesis

2017-05-17 22:48:30 UTC  

you say the ideological underpinnings

2017-05-17 22:48:48 UTC  

I'm going on a vague memory and "how the fans behave"

2017-05-17 22:48:53 UTC  

what's the problem then?

2017-05-17 22:49:08 UTC  

How do I challenge this notion

2017-05-17 22:49:24 UTC  

That marxists are intellectually lazy and stuck in a containment ideology

2017-05-17 22:49:42 UTC  

No, Marx studied a lot, just check the biography

2017-05-17 22:49:51 UTC  

as well as Lenin, Stalin and others

2017-05-17 22:49:56 UTC  

they have plenty of volumes

2017-05-17 22:50:22 UTC  

Yeah see that's an intellectually lazy answer.

2017-05-17 22:50:25 UTC  

RTFM

2017-05-17 22:50:34 UTC  

rtfm, like mao

2017-05-17 22:50:44 UTC  

you're the lazy here

2017-05-17 22:51:06 UTC  

go read from what you don't know instead of believing the capitalist propaganda and bourgeois economy

2017-05-17 22:51:28 UTC  

we answered all your questions

2017-05-17 22:51:40 UTC  

LMAO

2017-05-17 22:52:32 UTC  

If I pick random Marx book some Marxist will say "oh that's the wrong one"

2017-05-17 22:52:49 UTC  

What's the vital volume

2017-05-17 22:52:49 UTC  

@OF-8 pick the right one.

2017-05-17 22:52:54 UTC  

The most concentrated marxpill

2017-05-17 22:52:56 UTC  

principles of communism

2017-05-17 22:53:12 UTC  

then, the communist manifesto, and capital is the definitive one

2017-05-17 22:53:29 UTC  

Capital is the one that made me ree

2017-05-17 22:53:34 UTC  

@OF-8 Anti-During by Engels describes most Marxist views outside of Capital.

2017-05-17 22:53:34 UTC  

liberals manipulate a lot about the labour theory of value

2017-05-17 22:53:37 UTC  

But I will take a look.

2017-05-17 22:53:41 UTC  

Its not too long.

2017-05-17 22:53:51 UTC  

It has to be Marx himself. No secondary sources.

2017-05-17 22:53:57 UTC  

in the critique of gotha's programme he says that labour isn't the source of all value

2017-05-17 22:53:58 UTC  

I don't need to get zizek'd

2017-05-17 22:54:18 UTC  

the theory is 95% true from analysis of the marxist economist Paul Cockshott

2017-05-17 22:54:23 UTC  

@OF-8 Engels considered as a classical Marxist source.

2017-05-17 22:54:32 UTC  

Principles of communism is very short

2017-05-17 22:54:49 UTC  

that too