Message from @Blebleh

Discord ID: 314538875643101184


2017-05-17 23:01:14 UTC  

>not being racist

2017-05-17 23:01:26 UTC  

the other "value" goes for the business owner

2017-05-17 23:01:43 UTC  

in socialism we can plan this in a form that the workers receive what they work

2017-05-17 23:01:44 UTC  

>able to read books

2017-05-17 23:01:46 UTC  

That worker sounds like a pretty well trained wagecuck

2017-05-17 23:02:14 UTC  

The perfect patsy for a land grab

2017-05-17 23:02:43 UTC  

Let's hope he doesn't find god so we can trick him into taking his bosses stuff

2017-05-17 23:02:47 UTC  

wagecuck? like most workers

2017-05-17 23:02:57 UTC  

Yup

2017-05-17 23:03:07 UTC  

>not having independent means

2017-05-17 23:03:14 UTC  

W A G E C U C K

2017-05-17 23:03:21 UTC  

Then?

2017-05-17 23:03:29 UTC  

Do you think that all workers can have them?

2017-05-17 23:03:34 UTC  

That's distributism, an utopic doctrine

2017-05-17 23:03:42 UTC  

No.

2017-05-17 23:03:57 UTC  

It's a sort of achievement for the exceptional

2017-05-17 23:04:21 UTC  

How is exploiting being exceptional?

2017-05-17 23:04:30 UTC  

capitalism is always distorted

2017-05-17 23:04:42 UTC  

Many must be exploited for the exploiter to profit.

2017-05-17 23:04:47 UTC  

Does this not make him exceptional?

2017-05-17 23:05:11 UTC  

yes, capitalists are a minority

2017-05-17 23:05:51 UTC  

No. Capitalists are anyone who believes in economic value.

2017-05-17 23:06:02 UTC  

Only a capitalist accepts local currency

2017-05-17 23:06:15 UTC  

The only non capitalists use other systems exclusively.

2017-05-17 23:06:17 UTC  

no, capitalists are people who have other people working for them

2017-05-17 23:06:30 UTC  

and they profit from them

2017-05-17 23:06:38 UTC  

Anyone who buys or sells has people working for them

2017-05-17 23:07:06 UTC  

We are a complicated planet wide telephathic hyper being

2017-05-17 23:07:10 UTC  

if I sell my shoe to someone face to face I don't have anyone working for me

2017-05-17 23:07:36 UTC  

The taxonomy is far too complex to say anyone is a non-capitalist

2017-05-17 23:07:46 UTC  

Did you make shoe?

2017-05-17 23:07:56 UTC  

Did you make materials to make shoe?

2017-05-17 23:07:59 UTC  

Being capitalist or not doesn't depend on the belief of economic value

2017-05-17 23:08:06 UTC  

It precisely does.

2017-05-17 23:08:25 UTC  

I didn't make the shoe, I bought it before

2017-05-17 23:08:26 UTC  

It is an indication of belief in a value system and identity as such

2017-05-17 23:08:40 UTC  

So you didn't do shit

2017-05-17 23:09:03 UTC  

You took something someone else did, transferred value, then transferred that object for value

2017-05-17 23:09:05 UTC  

In that case I didn't have workers working for me

2017-05-17 23:09:10 UTC  

I just bought a shoe with my money

2017-05-17 23:09:18 UTC  

You have the manufacturer of that shoe working for you