Message from @Blebleh

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2017-05-17 23:06:38 UTC  

Anyone who buys or sells has people working for them

2017-05-17 23:07:06 UTC  

We are a complicated planet wide telephathic hyper being

2017-05-17 23:07:10 UTC  

if I sell my shoe to someone face to face I don't have anyone working for me

2017-05-17 23:07:36 UTC  

The taxonomy is far too complex to say anyone is a non-capitalist

2017-05-17 23:07:46 UTC  

Did you make shoe?

2017-05-17 23:07:56 UTC  

Did you make materials to make shoe?

2017-05-17 23:07:59 UTC  

Being capitalist or not doesn't depend on the belief of economic value

2017-05-17 23:08:06 UTC  

It precisely does.

2017-05-17 23:08:25 UTC  

I didn't make the shoe, I bought it before

2017-05-17 23:08:26 UTC  

It is an indication of belief in a value system and identity as such

2017-05-17 23:08:40 UTC  

So you didn't do shit

2017-05-17 23:09:03 UTC  

You took something someone else did, transferred value, then transferred that object for value

2017-05-17 23:09:05 UTC  

In that case I didn't have workers working for me

2017-05-17 23:09:10 UTC  

I just bought a shoe with my money

2017-05-17 23:09:18 UTC  

You have the manufacturer of that shoe working for you

2017-05-17 23:09:19 UTC  

and then sold it

2017-05-17 23:09:57 UTC  

no

2017-05-17 23:10:04 UTC  

I'm putting a case in which I'm no capitalist

2017-05-17 23:10:12 UTC  

I just buy from a shop and sell the shoe

2017-05-17 23:10:21 UTC  

with no people working for me

2017-05-17 23:10:25 UTC  

I'm just trading

2017-05-17 23:10:48 UTC  

now, if I had an enterprise and I had workers doing the shoes; I'd profit and pay the workers a wage

2017-05-17 23:10:53 UTC  

in that case I'd be a capitalist

2017-05-17 23:11:09 UTC  

Financial capital does not depends on production anymore.

2017-05-17 23:11:09 UTC  

It's too late there you're already a willing node in the capitalist system.

2017-05-17 23:11:11 UTC  

A tool of it.

2017-05-17 23:11:18 UTC  

GG NO RE

2017-05-17 23:11:24 UTC  

Production depends on financial capital.

2017-05-17 23:11:33 UTC  

no

2017-05-17 23:11:39 UTC  

Marx explains capitalism

2017-05-17 23:11:46 UTC  

INCORRECTLY

2017-05-17 23:11:49 UTC  

I'm telling who's a capitalist

2017-05-17 23:11:50 UTC  

in many cases.

2017-05-17 23:12:06 UTC  

you think that it depends on belief

2017-05-17 23:12:14 UTC  

I know this because marxists rarely understand economics.

2017-05-17 23:12:23 UTC  

neoclassical economics?

2017-05-17 23:12:25 UTC  

austrian ones?

2017-05-17 23:12:35 UTC  

The tools to understand it aren't in the Marxist literary pantheon.

2017-05-17 23:12:36 UTC  

they falsify marxism

2017-05-17 23:12:39 UTC  

that's why you hate it

2017-05-17 23:12:44 UTC  

@OF-8 Financial capital are Banks, Trade, Investment, international trade, war.