Message from @PremYattani

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2017-05-29 06:33:37 UTC  

But, contemplation has been done by people before us

2017-05-29 06:33:45 UTC  

@PremYattani Nothing is absolute. The universe is in constant motion and change.

2017-05-29 06:34:03 UTC  

And it is quite apt that we might peruse the the understandings of those gyaanis of the past

2017-05-29 06:34:05 UTC  

the wise men

2017-05-29 06:34:19 UTC  

@Deleted User So humans have always existed in the same exact form and didn't evolve?

2017-05-29 06:34:33 UTC  

The universe has the manifest and the unmanifest. The unmanifest is primordial potential.

2017-05-29 06:34:37 UTC  

That is forever true

2017-05-29 06:34:48 UTC  

Have you ever considered the scope of that change? As in it could take hundreds of thousands of years to effect it?

2017-05-29 06:34:49 UTC  

the womb of manifestation

2017-05-29 06:34:50 UTC  

God

2017-05-29 06:34:52 UTC  

Truth

2017-05-29 06:35:01 UTC  

Many people have given many names

2017-05-29 06:35:05 UTC  

To the absoliute

2017-05-29 06:35:08 UTC  

absolute*

2017-05-29 06:35:21 UTC  

@PremYattani The universe is also deterministic. It has potential but its trajectory is not supernatural.

2017-05-29 06:35:26 UTC  

The absolute is our true nature.

2017-05-29 06:35:29 UTC  

Why put so much effort into changing Human nature instead of forming an ideology that can actually work with it and build off of it?

2017-05-29 06:35:49 UTC  

You can say everything is supernatural or nothing is supernatural

2017-05-29 06:35:52 UTC  

@Deleted User Because the human form can be improved.

2017-05-29 06:36:11 UTC  

There are already ideologies @Deleted User

2017-05-29 06:36:18 UTC  

Sikhism

2017-05-29 06:36:23 UTC  

Is mine

2017-05-29 06:36:27 UTC  

To what end? To not want better things? To have not a hint of ambition?

2017-05-29 06:36:34 UTC  

Ambition is natural

2017-05-29 06:36:58 UTC  

People are not ants and bees.

2017-05-29 06:37:05 UTC  

@Deleted User To have economic freedom and freedom from exploitation.

2017-05-29 06:37:07 UTC  

To oppress and do injustice to others is the evil in our society

2017-05-29 06:37:38 UTC  

And it is due to spiritual darkness that people live in ego, greed, anger, lust and attachment

2017-05-29 06:37:41 UTC  

That's what I want too, so what's so special about your version that you have to change the fundamental nature of Humanity?

2017-05-29 06:37:54 UTC  

@PremYattani What is the absolute nature of man, Singh?

2017-05-29 06:38:34 UTC  

Bhaaee, that we all share one light, and we are all equal in the eyes of the sovereign

2017-05-29 06:38:50 UTC  

That we ourselves are sovereign

2017-05-29 06:39:06 UTC  

as we each must come before god by ourselves

2017-05-29 06:39:28 UTC  

@Deleted User Exploitation occurs when there is control of the means of production by a few over the many. You cannot fix this without changing society's relationship to production.

2017-05-29 06:39:35 UTC  

Fascism = organic state = cycling shit to match the needs of the people and adheres to natural order

2017-05-29 06:39:54 UTC  

Fascism is more revolutionary than Marxism, and doesn't promise utopia at the end

2017-05-29 06:39:58 UTC  

@Deleted User thank you for Summarizing

2017-05-29 06:40:02 UTC  

As if you'd need utopia anyway

2017-05-29 06:40:16 UTC  

What is fascism?

2017-05-29 06:40:25 UTC  

I only know that Hitler and Mussolini were fascists

2017-05-29 06:40:33 UTC  

and that their regimes were not good.