Message from @Hezbolshevik

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2017-06-04 20:27:06 UTC  

anarchist communes existed

2017-06-04 20:27:07 UTC  

why is that inevitable

2017-06-04 20:27:19 UTC  

in humans in particular

2017-06-04 20:27:23 UTC  

a freely *conscious animal

2017-06-04 20:27:54 UTC  

Dominance hierarchies are an inescapable feature of human social groups, we are not freely acting individuals we act as tribes.

2017-06-04 20:28:09 UTC  

prove it

2017-06-04 20:28:15 UTC  

Marxian concepts didn't get this update to our neurological understanding.

2017-06-04 20:28:19 UTC  

So they are obsolete.

2017-06-04 20:28:21 UTC  

you're just *saying* things

2017-06-04 20:28:23 UTC  

not proving

2017-06-04 20:28:27 UTC  

I don't have to prove.

2017-06-04 20:28:30 UTC  

This is trolling

2017-06-04 20:28:33 UTC  

*ok_hand*

2017-06-04 20:28:46 UTC  

Don't be a lazy nigger and check my facts.

2017-06-04 20:29:02 UTC  

why can't tribes collaborate

2017-06-04 20:29:07 UTC  

lenin made a step forward to marx to organize the people and remove the dominance of the capitalist society; and then anarchism

2017-06-04 20:29:14 UTC  

it's not impossible

2017-06-04 20:29:14 UTC  

why can't tribes be expanded

2017-06-04 20:29:18 UTC  

Because they trade.

2017-06-04 20:29:20 UTC  

Not collaborate.

2017-06-04 20:29:39 UTC  

All collaboration between outgroup members involves a proxy for value.

2017-06-04 20:29:40 UTC  

trade doesn't preclude collaboration, trade *is* collaboration

2017-06-04 20:29:47 UTC  

we can collaborate in a planned economy

2017-06-04 20:29:47 UTC  

At that point, capitalism.

2017-06-04 20:29:53 UTC  

It's a feature of tribalism.

2017-06-04 20:29:57 UTC  

This excludes marx

2017-06-04 20:30:05 UTC  

then why did capitalism not develop for thousands of years

2017-06-04 20:30:11 UTC  

markets /= capitalism

2017-06-04 20:30:11 UTC  

False.

2017-06-04 20:30:24 UTC  

Capitalism is a feature of tribalism in the form of trade.

2017-06-04 20:30:33 UTC  

trade /= capitalism

2017-06-04 20:31:20 UTC  

The existence of value proxies created through trade contradicts Marxian capital theory.

2017-06-04 20:31:33 UTC  

Meaning you have to change the structure of the human brain to implement it.

2017-06-04 20:31:37 UTC  

no

2017-06-04 20:31:53 UTC  

Which happens when the natural minded humans are put up against the wall.

2017-06-04 20:32:14 UTC  

You are expected to reject this concept.

2017-06-04 20:32:27 UTC  

And this is why I find you brainlets funny

2017-06-04 20:32:29 UTC  

Marx developed several stages and didn't call tribalism capitalism since the economy wasn't based in the extraction of surplus value from the worker by a capitalist

2017-06-04 20:32:32 UTC  

what are value proxies created through trade

2017-06-04 20:32:33 UTC  

Cue the mental gymnastics.