Message from @Anglican

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2017-06-07 01:23:52 UTC  

So we advance towards the objective and material.

2017-06-07 01:24:09 UTC  

*But, is the material all that matters?*

2017-06-07 01:24:35 UTC  

Thats a serious question. Is this matter which makes us up on this place in our existance all that matters?

2017-06-07 01:24:39 UTC  

Or are we something more then this?

2017-06-07 01:24:44 UTC  

Something much more

2017-06-07 01:24:45 UTC  

No.

2017-06-07 01:25:18 UTC  

No to which statement?

2017-06-07 01:25:50 UTC  

All.

2017-06-07 01:25:54 UTC  

@Deleted User Many of them. Some of them were never connected to Marxism-Leninism. They were revolutionaries or thinkers of a time, but not essentially Marxist. Marxism has many planes. Some Marxist don't even go outside of philosophical field or their specialty. Most western Marxists are highly specialized and never have any common ground with other Marxist. This ideology is relatively new and more advance. It requires more effort too. So a lot of questions are not solved. And ideology is not completely formed too. You can't make same propaganda to workers 1917 in Russia and to petite bourgeoisie in Australia 2017

2017-06-07 01:26:09 UTC  

What?

2017-06-07 01:26:43 UTC  

>The material is not that all matters

2017-06-07 01:26:46 UTC  

>We are just material

2017-06-07 01:27:03 UTC  

Purpose is vague idealism.

2017-06-07 01:27:23 UTC  

The best example of the truly Objective would be Mathematics

2017-06-07 01:27:31 UTC  

Well, yeah.

2017-06-07 01:27:41 UTC  

But even then, we developed that by our own terms.

2017-06-07 01:27:46 UTC  

😉

2017-06-07 01:27:52 UTC  

But even the mind of the greatest mathematician is still left to grasp Mathematics with his Subjective brain

2017-06-07 01:28:02 UTC  

I mean

2017-06-07 01:28:07 UTC  

@Konduct Romans 2.7 Mathematics are too abstract and specialized. They cannot be objective.

2017-06-07 01:28:07 UTC  

what if aliens have 12 numbers

2017-06-07 01:28:09 UTC  

instead of 10?

2017-06-07 01:28:14 UTC  

We did not create Mathematics, we discovered it.

2017-06-07 01:28:14 UTC  

@Firefly#9983 Thanks for that great responce. So focus of theory as well as practice.

2017-06-07 01:28:38 UTC  

That'd be a dozzy

2017-06-07 01:28:40 UTC  

2+2 = 4. This is objective.

2017-06-07 01:28:59 UTC  

Not if their God-Emperor says it equals 5

2017-06-07 01:29:00 UTC  

There's nothing specialized about an equation.

2017-06-07 01:29:17 UTC  

*Okay*

2017-06-07 01:29:17 UTC  

@Konduct Romans 2.7 it is true. Not objective.

2017-06-07 01:29:19 UTC  

But that decree of the God-Emperor is irrelevant to reality

2017-06-07 01:29:21 UTC  

There is no object.

2017-06-07 01:29:23 UTC  

*Fine, you're right*

2017-06-07 01:29:28 UTC  

>(

2017-06-07 01:29:47 UTC  

kek, active moderation bots

2017-06-07 01:29:49 UTC  

there doesn't need to be an object for a construct to be objective

2017-06-07 01:29:58 UTC  

>Social construct

2017-06-07 01:30:06 UTC  

...No

2017-06-07 01:30:07 UTC  

Guys, ideology is just a social contruct.

2017-06-07 01:30:18 UTC  

Mathematics is ideology now?

2017-06-07 01:30:23 UTC  

Yes