Message from @Sorghagtani Beki

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2017-06-11 05:06:33 UTC  

It is fair to judge them if they have the truth before them and reject it.

2017-06-11 05:07:00 UTC  

But clearly if you look at it statistically it would be much worse to be born in Saudi Arabia

2017-06-11 05:07:38 UTC  

As in highly likely that the man born in Arabia never accepts the Gospel compared to the Vatican

2017-06-11 05:07:54 UTC  

It is still fair

2017-06-11 05:07:56 UTC  

I assume God would make an exception for this?

2017-06-11 05:08:17 UTC  

It depends, do they know about Christianity? If so then yes it's fiar.

2017-06-11 05:08:45 UTC  

Eh, well

2017-06-11 05:08:52 UTC  

This is why the followers of Christ are called to preach the word unto all nations

2017-06-11 05:08:56 UTC  

What if they never truly explore Christianity because they have been raised to reject it in favor of another religion?

2017-06-11 05:08:59 UTC  

wouldn't it also depend on their level of knowledge?

2017-06-11 05:09:29 UTC  

If they just knew there were people called Christians, is it still their fault for rejecting it?

2017-06-11 05:09:36 UTC  

No

2017-06-11 05:09:48 UTC  

They had to concsiously reject it

2017-06-11 05:09:49 UTC  

Or would they have to know of the bible, at least the largeer moral principles, and so on?

2017-06-11 05:09:51 UTC  

Wouldn't this mean it would be better to not spread the Gospel at all

2017-06-11 05:10:08 UTC  

No, because the people still have to live moral lives despite the lack of knowledge

2017-06-11 05:10:14 UTC  

Okay, just making sure I understand.

2017-06-11 05:10:16 UTC  

Which isn't every case

2017-06-11 05:10:20 UTC  

Why? It would make it harder for them to go to paradise.

2017-06-11 05:10:35 UTC  

I mean, if they raped a child and beheaded their wife...

2017-06-11 05:10:50 UTC  

People without God are more likely to do this?

2017-06-11 05:11:01 UTC  

I mean, they can't live 100% Christian lives. But they can be good by what their heart calls them to do.

2017-06-11 05:11:23 UTC  

IE God's pulling them toward goodess.

2017-06-11 05:11:40 UTC  

Then Christians should not spread the Gospel

2017-06-11 05:11:46 UTC  

Because it would make it harder on pagans.

2017-06-11 05:12:19 UTC  

It wouldn't make it harder. There's no guarantee that they'll live moral lives having no knowledge of it.

2017-06-11 05:12:43 UTC  

Pagans have a higher chance of living immoral lives that would send them to hell compared to Christians?

2017-06-11 05:12:48 UTC  

Jesus Christ wants us to bring the whole world into captivity to the truth, and the truth is Jesus himself, who is "the way, and the truth, and the life" (John 14:6). Spreading the faith is a task not only for bishops, priests, and religious—it is a task for all Catholics (CCC 905).

2017-06-11 05:13:00 UTC  

Exactly

2017-06-11 05:13:14 UTC  

And yes, Pagans are more likely to live amoral lives

2017-06-11 05:13:35 UTC  

So that is still geographical favoritism. Based on where you are born, you have a higher chance to go to hell.

2017-06-11 05:15:20 UTC  

god just doesnt like people not born in the west

2017-06-11 05:16:50 UTC  

Well even in the time of the new testament there were churches established in india so that isn't quite true

2017-06-11 05:17:05 UTC  

and Armenia and Ethiopia were the first two nations to convert to Christianity

2017-06-11 05:17:06 UTC  

But not in Papua New Guinea

2017-06-11 05:17:17 UTC  

That's what missionaries are for

2017-06-11 05:17:32 UTC  

Their salvation rests on the back of weak robed men?

2017-06-11 05:17:39 UTC  

Just because someone is born in a Christian nation doesn't mean they will be saved.

2017-06-11 05:17:44 UTC  

Exactly

2017-06-11 05:17:57 UTC  

If anything, someone born in the US today has an even lower chance

2017-06-11 05:18:03 UTC  

But we can agree those born in pagan nations have a higher chance to not be saved, as they have a higher chance to live immoral lives