Message from @Mros

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2017-06-11 05:09:49 UTC  

Or would they have to know of the bible, at least the largeer moral principles, and so on?

2017-06-11 05:09:51 UTC  

Wouldn't this mean it would be better to not spread the Gospel at all

2017-06-11 05:10:08 UTC  

No, because the people still have to live moral lives despite the lack of knowledge

2017-06-11 05:10:14 UTC  

Okay, just making sure I understand.

2017-06-11 05:10:16 UTC  

Which isn't every case

2017-06-11 05:10:20 UTC  

Why? It would make it harder for them to go to paradise.

2017-06-11 05:10:35 UTC  

I mean, if they raped a child and beheaded their wife...

2017-06-11 05:10:50 UTC  

People without God are more likely to do this?

2017-06-11 05:11:01 UTC  

I mean, they can't live 100% Christian lives. But they can be good by what their heart calls them to do.

2017-06-11 05:11:23 UTC  

IE God's pulling them toward goodess.

2017-06-11 05:11:40 UTC  

Then Christians should not spread the Gospel

2017-06-11 05:11:46 UTC  

Because it would make it harder on pagans.

2017-06-11 05:12:19 UTC  

It wouldn't make it harder. There's no guarantee that they'll live moral lives having no knowledge of it.

2017-06-11 05:12:43 UTC  

Pagans have a higher chance of living immoral lives that would send them to hell compared to Christians?

2017-06-11 05:12:48 UTC  

Jesus Christ wants us to bring the whole world into captivity to the truth, and the truth is Jesus himself, who is "the way, and the truth, and the life" (John 14:6). Spreading the faith is a task not only for bishops, priests, and religious—it is a task for all Catholics (CCC 905).

2017-06-11 05:13:00 UTC  

Exactly

2017-06-11 05:13:14 UTC  

And yes, Pagans are more likely to live amoral lives

2017-06-11 05:13:35 UTC  

So that is still geographical favoritism. Based on where you are born, you have a higher chance to go to hell.

2017-06-11 05:15:20 UTC  

god just doesnt like people not born in the west

2017-06-11 05:16:50 UTC  

Well even in the time of the new testament there were churches established in india so that isn't quite true

2017-06-11 05:17:05 UTC  

and Armenia and Ethiopia were the first two nations to convert to Christianity

2017-06-11 05:17:06 UTC  

But not in Papua New Guinea

2017-06-11 05:17:17 UTC  

That's what missionaries are for

2017-06-11 05:17:32 UTC  

Their salvation rests on the back of weak robed men?

2017-06-11 05:17:39 UTC  

Just because someone is born in a Christian nation doesn't mean they will be saved.

2017-06-11 05:17:44 UTC  

Exactly

2017-06-11 05:17:57 UTC  

If anything, someone born in the US today has an even lower chance

2017-06-11 05:18:03 UTC  

But we can agree those born in pagan nations have a higher chance to not be saved, as they have a higher chance to live immoral lives

2017-06-11 05:18:16 UTC  

i keep having really strange experiences with time dilation

2017-06-11 05:18:22 UTC  

What do you mean?

2017-06-11 05:18:23 UTC  

So if someone born in the US has an even lower chance, is that still not geographical favoritism?

2017-06-11 05:18:34 UTC  

That's called psychosis. Go see a doctor.

2017-06-11 05:18:34 UTC  

Not really

2017-06-11 05:18:42 UTC  

It's due to the current state of the US society

2017-06-11 05:18:53 UTC  

That is not the fault of someone being born

2017-06-11 05:20:12 UTC  

Of course. We are not clones that exist in mirror universes, every individual's circumstances is unique.

2017-06-11 05:20:43 UTC  

I would feel bad for those who would unfortunately be born as pagans

2017-06-11 05:20:47 UTC  

in pagan lands

2017-06-11 05:21:03 UTC  

We do not know the true number of person's in heaven.

2017-06-11 05:21:07 UTC  

Surely an all-good god cannot have geographical favorites

2017-06-11 05:21:19 UTC  

like it will feel like 3 hours and ill look at the clock and its only been 15 mins, or it will feel like its been 2 mins but i look at the clock and its been a hour