Message from @Cotton

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2017-06-14 23:50:49 UTC  

*"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, the sinner."*

2017-06-14 23:55:52 UTC  

although religions can't be mutually correct, as it would contradict the whole philosophy behind a *religion*

2017-06-14 23:56:11 UTC  

there is a reason they were born as different religions with different ideas and dogmas

2017-06-14 23:57:55 UTC  

You're using abstract logic to try to determine the ultimate nature of reality. I don't know how useful that is.

2017-06-15 00:00:05 UTC  

'Philosophy' by the way, is an artefact of Greek reasoning. This is only upheld in the west and by Catholicism, contrary to Orthodox who have always been against such rash deductions.

2017-06-15 00:00:42 UTC  

If philosophy worked so well, why was Aristotle wrong about so many things?

2017-06-15 00:01:02 UTC  

No I get that, what I'm saying is that a religion simply can't exist without denying other religions in existence

2017-06-15 00:01:34 UTC  

As in, you can't form a new set of thoughts without denying the former ones

2017-06-15 00:01:47 UTC  

Three branches and all that

2017-06-15 00:03:54 UTC  

I don't think the belief of the heart has a conscious denial of other things. That is the rationalisation of the mind, probably after it is questioned by itself or others.

2017-06-15 00:04:44 UTC  

Also I wouldn't endow philosophy to any group, how I see it is that it's a practice of reasoning by logic, in it's current form at least.

2017-06-15 00:05:59 UTC  

Well, specifically, I had Catholicism in mind, who rely on Aristotlean logic. I am aware other faiths have different kinds of logic, like from India.

2017-06-15 00:06:49 UTC  

9/10 when a westerner refers to logic they mean they Aristotlean kind.

2017-06-15 00:07:58 UTC  

I see where you're coming from, true.

2017-06-15 00:08:58 UTC  

In reality, we don't really know for sure how the tapestry of religion works in relation to the Truth. The best practice, according to Palamism, is to rely on revelation of the heart, which is the only chance for having knowledge (of a kind) about God.

2017-06-15 00:09:30 UTC  

Logic always falls short.

2017-06-15 00:11:54 UTC  

By extension, when scholars suggest that revelation has no basis in reason, they are in a way partly correct and partly incorrect. It is only an estimation of their behalf. Whether or not it is True or not, is not known. Reality exists beyond reason.

2017-06-15 00:13:15 UTC  

It seems prayer, in this context, is an attempt to connect and witness the Truth, where no other avenues are avaliable.

2017-06-15 00:14:32 UTC  

It is deeply unscientific, but in a way this is also a strength because it opens up the possibility the lies beyond logical deductions.

2017-06-15 00:15:13 UTC  

From what I can gather, Palamism follows the idealism approach for reasoning, although I need further reading on the matter.

2017-06-15 00:15:18 UTC  

Will definitely work on that.

2017-06-15 00:15:19 UTC  

Whether it is provable or not is really not a relevant question. It is only verifiable, if you could call it that, according to intuition.

2017-06-15 00:15:58 UTC  

Islam is a spook. Much like religion as a whole.

2017-06-15 00:16:13 UTC  

The fuck did I walk into

2017-06-15 00:17:16 UTC  

@ZipZapZack What did you mean by this?

2017-06-15 00:17:34 UTC  

its really a strange place

2017-06-15 00:17:55 UTC  

render unto Caesar

2017-06-15 00:18:23 UTC  

Ah, the distinct smell of utter shitposting

2017-06-15 00:18:25 UTC  

Always a pleasure

2017-06-15 00:18:27 UTC  

is that a screen from age of empires as your avatar

2017-06-15 00:18:40 UTC  

It's a very autistic place which lacks the ability to harness that autism to turn it into weaponised autism. In other words, this place is just shitpost central for me.

2017-06-15 00:19:08 UTC  

When I'm bored.

2017-06-15 00:19:31 UTC  

damn right

2017-06-15 00:19:40 UTC  

you have the right idea

2017-06-15 00:20:33 UTC  

Then again, I'm not a leftist, I just like to talk to lefties once in awhile without actually talking about politics. It's fun to just be social, and put politics aside for awhile.

2017-06-15 00:20:34 UTC  

if you have a hentai avatar you deserve to get the shit beaten out of you with a tree branch

2017-06-15 00:21:15 UTC  

and soon we hope to capture the land know as california but for now we rest come lets see to the burning of the dead

2017-06-15 00:22:15 UTC  

The first mistaken of edgelords is to assume /leftypol/ is actually populated by leftists.

2017-06-15 00:22:36 UTC  

But like

2017-06-15 00:22:36 UTC  

True.

2017-06-15 00:22:38 UTC  

oh yep