Message from @Thought Police

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2017-07-03 15:12:05 UTC  

people say that ceo's get more money than the workers

2017-07-03 15:12:17 UTC  

They do

2017-07-03 15:12:17 UTC  

but i say that workers get less money than the ceos

2017-07-03 15:12:19 UTC  

:>

2017-07-03 15:12:27 UTC  

They do as well

2017-07-03 15:12:37 UTC  

people say funny things

2017-07-03 15:12:40 UTC  

but i say things funny

2017-07-03 15:13:03 UTC  

what is your ideology

2017-07-03 15:13:04 UTC  

a

2017-07-03 15:13:06 UTC  

communist

2017-07-03 15:13:07 UTC  

?

2017-07-03 15:13:26 UTC  

I'm not a communist but I do like the scandinavian system and it's social policies

2017-07-03 15:13:41 UTC  

so democratic socialist?

2017-07-03 15:13:44 UTC  

sure

2017-07-03 15:13:50 UTC  

k

2017-07-03 15:13:51 UTC  

social democrat8

2017-07-03 15:13:54 UTC  

not socialist

2017-07-03 15:14:00 UTC  

All what a company sells/gets money from must be from the labor of it's workers. In other words, the source of the revenue is that of the worker. In order for profits to exist, and for giving employers a reason to employ he workers, the wages must be worth less than that of the workers's labor

2017-07-03 15:14:26 UTC  

there is no way the worker cannot gett full compensation from his labor if the idea of profit exists

2017-07-03 15:14:39 UTC  

Hey everyone

2017-07-03 15:14:53 UTC  

o/

2017-07-03 15:14:56 UTC  

now ofc this three-line explaination written by someone who hasn't read too much marx will have holes in it

2017-07-03 15:15:57 UTC  

also this is alone not much of an argument for socialism, but it is one of the things that marx build his arguments on

2017-07-03 15:16:25 UTC  

You believe that it is unacceptable that workers get paid less than the "boss"?

2017-07-03 15:17:14 UTC  

it's not that the workers gets less than the boss, it is that he doesn't get what me makes

2017-07-03 15:17:38 UTC  

let's say that the boss also works in his company and is incredibly productive

2017-07-03 15:18:06 UTC  

then in some sort of "moral" solution, he should still be given more since his labor is worth more

2017-07-03 15:18:15 UTC  

the argument is not that of equality

2017-07-03 15:19:50 UTC  

if you want to use this as an argument for socialism and changing the system into one where people do get his labor's worth, you will have to go further

2017-07-03 15:22:58 UTC  

so if the owner of a factory makes 100
pays the workers 30 and the operating cost is 20, he makes a 50 profit for himself
you'd argue he's spread his profits to the workers so he makes as much as the workers?

2017-07-03 15:24:03 UTC  

well no, I want there not to be a owner

2017-07-03 15:24:19 UTC  

to abolish the employer/employee relationsship

2017-07-03 15:24:59 UTC  

And the reason you want that is because of the profit/salary/worker issue?

2017-07-03 15:25:04 UTC  

or are there more reasons

2017-07-03 15:25:15 UTC  

labour alienation

2017-07-03 15:25:22 UTC  

well more or less yeah

2017-07-03 15:25:38 UTC  

labour alienation can happen even in a collectivelly owned factory, no?

2017-07-03 15:25:45 UTC  

there are some things that springs out from that issue that should also be mentioned like labro alienation

2017-07-03 15:25:50 UTC  

it can

2017-07-03 15:26:02 UTC  

I think

2017-07-03 15:26:11 UTC  

I'm not very well versed in marx sadly