Message from @Jonn

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2017-07-07 22:17:39 UTC  

Socially left, economically right

2017-07-07 22:17:40 UTC  

Ye

2017-07-07 22:17:42 UTC  

I'm very socially liberal

2017-07-07 22:17:54 UTC  

Then Prob u more libertarian I guess

2017-07-07 22:18:19 UTC  

bullshit anarchist nonsense @Deleted User

2017-07-07 22:18:25 UTC  

peace

2017-07-07 22:18:43 UTC  

I can't remember what the charts were for the Greece academic journal I read, but it was similar to Spain. Their spending was crazy. I remember wages as one part, but this could be from the boost

2017-07-07 22:19:50 UTC  

I know that it had something to do with their welfare system and trade

2017-07-07 22:19:57 UTC  

but the eu did fuck them over

2017-07-07 22:20:16 UTC  

mabey they should have just balanced the budget

2017-07-07 22:20:16 UTC  

I saw in a documentary that the greek government never even collected all the taxes. This is hard to believe a government doing this

2017-07-07 22:20:26 UTC  

Being in the EU hurt them *after* the crisis

2017-07-07 22:20:39 UTC  

can't balance the budget without damage to society

2017-07-07 22:20:43 UTC  

The problem is their fault though

2017-07-07 22:21:06 UTC  

Excessive spending like idiots. Ireland did the same

2017-07-07 22:21:08 UTC  

pretty sure the gov as an incentive to collect taxes

2017-07-07 22:21:14 UTC  

maybe not from all classes, but still

2017-07-07 22:21:19 UTC  

well either you go through a bit of bad times to fix yourself or you destroy yourself because you cant do a hard thing

2017-07-07 22:21:44 UTC  

greece shows that the politicians couldnt go through with a bit of bad to do good

2017-07-07 22:21:48 UTC  

can't make drastic change to welfare in a democratic state though

2017-07-07 22:21:50 UTC  

I read a lot about each european crisis but i cant remember too well atm

2017-07-07 22:21:55 UTC  

without civil war

2017-07-07 22:22:02 UTC  

that's fine

2017-07-07 22:22:02 UTC  

Democracy is shit

2017-07-07 22:22:07 UTC  

then civil war is the smaller price to pay

2017-07-07 22:22:22 UTC  

government is generally shit but it is necessary

2017-07-07 22:22:35 UTC  

democracy is the best way of containing government

2017-07-07 22:22:45 UTC  

democracy isnt shit its shit when you let everyone have a vote

2017-07-07 22:23:00 UTC  

Democracy is most representative of the people and is therefore the most stable form of government

2017-07-07 22:23:08 UTC  

aristocracy is a good idea

2017-07-07 22:23:18 UTC  

the people aren't stable @Tengri#2673

2017-07-07 22:23:26 UTC  

the masses are easily tampered with

2017-07-07 22:23:27 UTC  

I like Lee Kuan Yew's idea where people aged 40-65 with children should have 2 votes

2017-07-07 22:23:33 UTC  

Until the people get pissed and your country is torn apart in civil war

2017-07-07 22:23:37 UTC  

the plebs will vote themselves money nothing stable with that

2017-07-07 22:23:37 UTC  

Democracy has the least civil war

2017-07-07 22:24:10 UTC  

kind of an odd idea, might work

2017-07-07 22:24:18 UTC  

Roman republic had civil war constantly

2017-07-07 22:24:20 UTC  

The ballot paralyzes revolution

2017-07-07 22:24:23 UTC  

between the senators

2017-07-07 22:24:25 UTC  

rhodesian voting laws were pretty good if you look at them