Message from @Ivan, the drunk
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Not even god?
Talking about economics -.-
I think there is no eternal and ideal things.
It's the best we can afford, still
It is already a different topic, yes? Market was born, it developed and it will be gone. Like all things
reminder that free market transformed Hong Kong and Singapore from shitholes to developed countries
with barely to no foreign aid
Does it matter if it is good or bad? It will be gone regardless of its value.
same goes for ussr and plan economy
or at least you can present the same argument
Yes.
USSR didn't do well
economic models should not be worshipped tbh, from gift economy to plan to market
@ClibtardMario it did become a superpower from scratch in short time
USSR built a large bubble which collapsed later on into a depression and hyperinflation
because of capitalism
State-guided economies often have a large latency when it needs to answer the changing needs of the population.
checkmate
Wrong
@ClibtardMario The important thing is not to follow an ideal. Be it market or planned economy, yes?
In fact, thats a funny thing to mention because since the collapse of USSR, Russia is growing extremely fast
are you making the leftcom arument of ussr being states-capitalism or are you referring to something else @Ivan, the drunk
@Firefly Free market capitalism did work, specially on high doses
none of them I was just being sarcastic
@ClibtardMario Why is that important?
I suppose most of us here don't want the citizens starving
Or just living a miserable living condition
I doubt anything but authoritorian state-capitalism would've been as good for russia at that time
@ClibtardMario so if there will be crisis of capitalism will you join us?
Nope
But you don't like seeing people starving?
Because capitalism right now is being moved by overspending and government intense regulation (i.e. keynesianism)
I'm calling for a crash within a year or so
Yes, and if it is in crisis and makes people starve it should go, right?
Most people think like that?
keynes isn't regulations is it? isn't it more about spending
that'll be socdem
Both
@Firefly I blame the last capitalist crises on keynesianism.