Message from @Ivan, the drunk

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2017-07-10 21:20:09 UTC  

Not even god?

2017-07-10 21:20:27 UTC  

Talking about economics -.-

2017-07-10 21:21:35 UTC  

I think there is no eternal and ideal things.

2017-07-10 21:21:52 UTC  

It's the best we can afford, still

2017-07-10 21:22:24 UTC  

It is already a different topic, yes? Market was born, it developed and it will be gone. Like all things

2017-07-10 21:22:30 UTC  

reminder that free market transformed Hong Kong and Singapore from shitholes to developed countries

2017-07-10 21:22:42 UTC  

with barely to no foreign aid

2017-07-10 21:23:51 UTC  

Does it matter if it is good or bad? It will be gone regardless of its value.

2017-07-10 21:24:00 UTC  

same goes for ussr and plan economy

2017-07-10 21:24:05 UTC  

or at least you can present the same argument

2017-07-10 21:24:16 UTC  

Yes.

2017-07-10 21:25:29 UTC  

USSR didn't do well

2017-07-10 21:25:30 UTC  

economic models should not be worshipped tbh, from gift economy to plan to market

2017-07-10 21:25:44 UTC  

@ClibtardMario it did become a superpower from scratch in short time

2017-07-10 21:25:48 UTC  

USSR built a large bubble which collapsed later on into a depression and hyperinflation

2017-07-10 21:26:11 UTC  

because of capitalism

2017-07-10 21:26:15 UTC  

State-guided economies often have a large latency when it needs to answer the changing needs of the population.

2017-07-10 21:26:17 UTC  

checkmate

2017-07-10 21:26:20 UTC  

Wrong

2017-07-10 21:26:20 UTC  

nerd

2017-07-10 21:26:30 UTC  

@ClibtardMario The important thing is not to follow an ideal. Be it market or planned economy, yes?

2017-07-10 21:26:44 UTC  

In fact, thats a funny thing to mention because since the collapse of USSR, Russia is growing extremely fast

2017-07-10 21:26:53 UTC  

are you making the leftcom arument of ussr being states-capitalism or are you referring to something else @Ivan, the drunk

2017-07-10 21:27:08 UTC  

@Firefly Free market capitalism did work, specially on high doses

2017-07-10 21:27:17 UTC  

none of them I was just being sarcastic

2017-07-10 21:27:31 UTC  

@ClibtardMario Why is that important?

2017-07-10 21:27:46 UTC  

I suppose most of us here don't want the citizens starving

2017-07-10 21:27:55 UTC  

Or just living a miserable living condition

2017-07-10 21:28:40 UTC  

I doubt anything but authoritorian state-capitalism would've been as good for russia at that time

2017-07-10 21:28:56 UTC  

@ClibtardMario so if there will be crisis of capitalism will you join us?

2017-07-10 21:29:00 UTC  

Nope

2017-07-10 21:29:13 UTC  

But you don't like seeing people starving?

2017-07-10 21:29:21 UTC  

Because capitalism right now is being moved by overspending and government intense regulation (i.e. keynesianism)

2017-07-10 21:29:34 UTC  

I'm calling for a crash within a year or so

2017-07-10 21:29:42 UTC  

Yes, and if it is in crisis and makes people starve it should go, right?

2017-07-10 21:29:48 UTC  

Most people think like that?

2017-07-10 21:29:53 UTC  

keynes isn't regulations is it? isn't it more about spending

2017-07-10 21:29:58 UTC  

that'll be socdem

2017-07-10 21:29:59 UTC  

Both

2017-07-10 21:30:18 UTC  

@Firefly I blame the last capitalist crises on keynesianism.