Message from @ClibtardMario
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@Firefly It really depends about which deaths you are blaming.
America
@ClibtardMario We don't blame the capitalist sytsem?
America isn't FMC
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why do all political terms have such weird meanings in america? from anarchism to libertarianism to socialism?
I don't blame capitalism because it is a far too broad of a denomination. So I just attack the specific viewpoint applied
@ClibtardMario So capitalism as a system cannot be blamed?
It can, but blaming it is too broad
can any american answer my question?
@ClibtardMario In which cases it can be blamed and in which it cannot be?
Capitalism can range from ancap to fully fledged state capitalism
Name me a situation in which a capitalistic system would lead to starvation
bad weather
I can only think of two, food shortages and your own fault
@Firefly If capitalism has been applied by enough time and there are still people suffering under it, then its capitalism fault. But I repeat myself, blame capitalism alone is too broad because then you can be blaming one or more than 10 different systems
those 10 systems share some things
@ClibtardMario so you can't blame capitalism. But you can blame socialism, right?
you can blame those
So far, I'm blaming keynesianism for 1970s stagflation, 1995-2001 bubble, 2002-2008 bubble and 2009-2017/18 bubble.
though you cant conclude
@Firefly I just said you can ffs
capitalism simply gives you the freedom, socialism puts rules on what you can and can't do
@ClibtardMario I'm asking not about how it is so far.
@ClibtardMario what about great depression? that was what I tried to ask before
anarchism doesn't
Not in the same exctent
FED's loosening and government subsidies which ended up in overproduction
I'm not arguing for anarchism
you're simplifying it
capitalism both can and cannot
as with socialism
Stocks at the time were booming because cheap credit was being unleashed on economy and because government incentives just increased production, at the long-term expense of huge deflations
Because that is the fundamental difference between capitalism and socialism, the freedom
no?
that's between socdem and right-libertarianism
boxxy lost her charm