Message from @MrSally

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2017-07-18 07:50:48 UTC  

I'm not so sure.

2017-07-18 07:51:14 UTC  

Yeah, there's the risk of degeneracy or whatever, but at that point I wouldn't worry at all.

2017-07-18 07:52:42 UTC  

I mean, yeah I'll be hooked into an endless techno-dopamine inter-circuit injection so I won't worry about anything ever

2017-07-18 07:53:13 UTC  

But I don't think actual criminals would be a problem when a self-improving AI has improved things to that point.

2017-07-18 07:54:29 UTC  

Utopians are the only good people

2017-07-18 07:54:35 UTC  

You will be a quivering mass of 10,000 genitals, injecting super nerve enhancing drugs, plugged into a supercomputer with optimised pleasure software. It is not progress at all.

2017-07-18 07:54:39 UTC  

You r gey

2017-07-18 07:54:41 UTC  

Fuck utopia.

2017-07-18 07:54:46 UTC  

Have to slave my wage guys tomorrow. Goodnight.

2017-07-18 07:54:51 UTC  

nighty

2017-07-18 07:55:05 UTC  

Nighty night

2017-07-18 07:55:14 UTC  

<:pink:312036766825840640>

2017-07-18 07:55:19 UTC  

But I would think that would be the entire end point of a species, when they reach that point and never have to do anything ever again because "improvement" could never actually come.

2017-07-18 07:55:38 UTC  

"Always room for improvement" is technically not true. Everything has a limit.

2017-07-18 07:56:24 UTC  

I'd think the only improvements would be cosmetic, to better appeal to the sensibilities because aesthetic value will have taken a much higher position on peoples' minds.

2017-07-18 07:57:13 UTC  

and so our supercomputer world would change appearance every decade as styles that originate in human minds change.

2017-07-18 08:00:37 UTC  

sleep tight comrade

2017-07-18 08:00:39 UTC  

>everything has a limit
>there must be an end point
Those are the words of drug addict

2017-07-18 08:01:29 UTC  

<:porky:315615014751043588> did someone say drug addict?

2017-07-18 08:02:15 UTC  

*why progress guys, progress has it's limits*

2017-07-18 08:05:34 UTC  

Progress does have a limit though. The idea that we are limitless is another religious thing.

2017-07-18 08:05:56 UTC  

But as long as progress can be made, I embrace it.

2017-07-18 08:06:33 UTC  

It's almost like we're

2017-07-18 08:06:39 UTC  

wait, let me think of a word

2017-07-18 08:06:43 UTC  

progress.... hmmmmmm

2017-07-18 08:06:47 UTC  

progressives!

2017-07-18 08:06:59 UTC  

I am a rather progressive person, yes sir.

2017-07-18 08:08:51 UTC  

I would love for America to form a progressive coalition centered around a few core populistic left wing policies out of its wide array of leftist parties that can't agree on everything, but do agree on a few very important things.

2017-07-18 08:09:19 UTC  

I also wish the Wobblies would come back.

2017-07-18 08:10:14 UTC  

And the De Leonists.

2017-07-18 08:19:54 UTC  

Progress is not necessarily by our own hand, if the subject of progress changes. Everything changes. And by our hand or others, the forces that move the universe from simpler things to more complicated things will always transform and develop.

2017-07-18 08:20:12 UTC  

I feel like your egoism is poisoning your objectivity.

2017-07-18 08:24:32 UTC  

Really? I think it's pretty rational egoism.

2017-07-18 08:25:16 UTC  

Would it be fair to assert then that what needs to be a foundation then for progressive policies is that which may move slower then other traditional issues? If the world makes exponential progress in tech that changes our relationship with the world then being 'progressive' on one issue one day will make it irrelevant the next.

2017-07-18 08:25:55 UTC  

I don't think so, I think we'll be able to keep up with it. We have been so far.

2017-07-18 08:25:58 UTC  

@AaronMk Yes! This was and still is hard for me to accept.

2017-07-18 08:26:17 UTC  

Egoism is never rational.

2017-07-18 08:26:28 UTC  

Not in the materialist sense.

2017-07-18 08:26:43 UTC  

Nothing wrong with being a little Chernyshevskian.

2017-07-18 08:27:22 UTC  

Rational egoism is literally exactly materialistic and socialistic.

2017-07-18 08:27:57 UTC  

Ego implies that the individual is primary.