Message from @MrSally

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2017-07-19 06:41:31 UTC  

Did you say that, Chopin?

2017-07-19 06:41:43 UTC  

It's a silly argument to make @Deleted User

2017-07-19 06:42:08 UTC  

You also have to factor in the fact that the U.S. wasn't always able to Justify a war with Gaddafi

2017-07-19 06:42:18 UTC  

If he did not actually name Gaddafi as an imperialist, I would advise you to check your argument a little bit to make sure you aren't projecting again.

2017-07-19 06:42:42 UTC  

They were only able to do so in 2011 because we had reached a point to where the population had become complacent with regards to the idea of perpetual warfare

2017-07-19 06:42:44 UTC  

Remain on point in your dialectic.

2017-07-19 06:43:26 UTC  

I'm pretty sure Gaddafi was always "asking for it".

2017-07-19 06:43:29 UTC  

@Revolutionary Nationalist said that he was always fighting imperialism, my response that the moment he did (in not being useful) he was killed. I made the point that if he had been a good Communist, he would have his whole life to defend against Capitalist assassination. But in reality, he never had to defend against it, because he was not targeted. I am finished with this.

2017-07-19 06:43:42 UTC  

Was he ever not an insane war criminal?

2017-07-19 06:43:47 UTC  

Communism isn't the only enemy to Liberalism

2017-07-19 06:43:55 UTC  

It's silly to believe so

2017-07-19 06:44:12 UTC  

Liberalism also killed fascism

2017-07-19 06:44:39 UTC  

They've also killed many other dictators who weren't communist

2017-07-19 06:44:57 UTC  

not to mention, you don't have to be a communist to be a socialist

2017-07-19 06:45:03 UTC  

Hmmm.

2017-07-19 06:45:24 UTC  

Honestly, I think you are confusing liberal and neoconservative.

2017-07-19 06:45:38 UTC  

Neoconservative is a subset of liberal

2017-07-19 06:45:43 UTC  

At least in the context of today.

2017-07-19 06:45:55 UTC  

In 2011 as well

2017-07-19 06:45:58 UTC  

No, it is vastly different from liberalism.

2017-07-19 06:46:03 UTC  

*Vastly*.

2017-07-19 06:46:05 UTC  

No it's not

2017-07-19 06:46:57 UTC  

Liberalism refers to the capitalist economic system, neoliberalism is the evolution of that. Neocons are essentially the right wing of the neoliberal establishment. That's why our only choices are neocons and neolibs

2017-07-19 06:47:18 UTC  

It's essentially liberalism on a global scale

2017-07-19 06:47:22 UTC  

Not really?

2017-07-19 06:48:09 UTC  

Liberal doesn't refer to capitalism specifically. Civil liberties are more important.

2017-07-19 06:48:11 UTC  

The Obama administration wasn't much different than the Bush administration when you look at actual policy

2017-07-19 06:48:24 UTC  

Civil Liberties are a spook

2017-07-19 06:48:35 UTC  

Stirner was a crazy fool.

2017-07-19 06:49:25 UTC  

They're still an illusion. The fact is, additional civil liberties are only a band aid to appease the working class to their economic oppression

2017-07-19 06:49:32 UTC  

Liberal nonsense

2017-07-19 06:49:39 UTC  

Even when you vote you're engaging in violence

2017-07-19 06:49:49 UTC  

Spooks are the super-ego telling the ego that something might be a good idea.

2017-07-19 06:50:51 UTC  

Doesn't matter, the fact is civil liberties are technically privileges, they can be easily taken away by whomever has the most guns (or force) in this case the government

2017-07-19 06:51:06 UTC  

Stirner died the year Freud was born. People didn't know this stuff and Stirner was not trained in psychoanalysis, so his answer for moral convictions was "spooks".

2017-07-19 06:51:18 UTC  

Individualism is willing slavery.

2017-07-19 06:52:07 UTC  

Liberty is not given, it is self-evident.

2017-07-19 06:52:28 UTC  

You do not grant a person their personhood.

2017-07-19 06:52:34 UTC  

Neither does society.

2017-07-19 06:52:44 UTC  

It exists with them, and that is sacred.

2017-07-19 06:53:10 UTC  

That's why tankies are sick fucking bastards who should be locked up for being dangerous sociopaths.