Message from @MrSally

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2017-07-19 06:38:40 UTC  

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2017-07-19 06:38:46 UTC  

Sorry I don't support the liberal west

2017-07-19 06:38:59 UTC  

Yeah, neiter do I, fuck face.

2017-07-19 06:39:06 UTC  

You clearly do

2017-07-19 06:39:08 UTC  

Sorry, just had to add some inflection there.

2017-07-19 06:39:16 UTC  

Fair enough

2017-07-19 06:39:26 UTC  

I'm sorry

2017-07-19 06:39:32 UTC  

No, it's okay.

2017-07-19 06:39:36 UTC  

I will end it here. I am saying that Gaddafi was allowed to exist, because the moment he wasn't useful he died. When you review the recent history of Libya it is clear that is did not have strong effect to turn others to Communism. To imperialist powers, Gaddafi was a lesser evil, because he was a basic dictator, with no effect on others, and only interested in his own land. On every level he was a very poor theoretician, because he did nothing to help the international working class. Yes, expectation is high, but because it has to be. History is a tough judge.

2017-07-19 06:40:21 UTC  

Isn't it less Orwellian to just say he was stupid and really easy to troll?

2017-07-19 06:40:41 UTC  

Yes but Dusseldorf would never understand that.

2017-07-19 06:40:53 UTC  

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2017-07-19 06:41:01 UTC  

Do you support Gaddafi, Dusseldorf?

2017-07-19 06:41:04 UTC  

*did

2017-07-19 06:41:20 UTC  

@Deleted User But you're essentially calling him an imperialist based on the fact that he wasn't "assassinated sooner"

2017-07-19 06:41:31 UTC  

Did you say that, Chopin?

2017-07-19 06:41:43 UTC  

It's a silly argument to make @Deleted User

2017-07-19 06:42:08 UTC  

You also have to factor in the fact that the U.S. wasn't always able to Justify a war with Gaddafi

2017-07-19 06:42:18 UTC  

If he did not actually name Gaddafi as an imperialist, I would advise you to check your argument a little bit to make sure you aren't projecting again.

2017-07-19 06:42:42 UTC  

They were only able to do so in 2011 because we had reached a point to where the population had become complacent with regards to the idea of perpetual warfare

2017-07-19 06:42:44 UTC  

Remain on point in your dialectic.

2017-07-19 06:43:26 UTC  

I'm pretty sure Gaddafi was always "asking for it".

2017-07-19 06:43:29 UTC  

@Revolutionary Nationalist said that he was always fighting imperialism, my response that the moment he did (in not being useful) he was killed. I made the point that if he had been a good Communist, he would have his whole life to defend against Capitalist assassination. But in reality, he never had to defend against it, because he was not targeted. I am finished with this.

2017-07-19 06:43:42 UTC  

Was he ever not an insane war criminal?

2017-07-19 06:43:47 UTC  

Communism isn't the only enemy to Liberalism

2017-07-19 06:43:55 UTC  

It's silly to believe so

2017-07-19 06:44:12 UTC  

Liberalism also killed fascism

2017-07-19 06:44:39 UTC  

They've also killed many other dictators who weren't communist

2017-07-19 06:44:57 UTC  

not to mention, you don't have to be a communist to be a socialist

2017-07-19 06:45:03 UTC  

Hmmm.

2017-07-19 06:45:24 UTC  

Honestly, I think you are confusing liberal and neoconservative.

2017-07-19 06:45:38 UTC  

Neoconservative is a subset of liberal

2017-07-19 06:45:43 UTC  

At least in the context of today.

2017-07-19 06:45:55 UTC  

In 2011 as well

2017-07-19 06:45:58 UTC  

No, it is vastly different from liberalism.

2017-07-19 06:46:03 UTC  

*Vastly*.

2017-07-19 06:46:05 UTC  

No it's not

2017-07-19 06:46:57 UTC  

Liberalism refers to the capitalist economic system, neoliberalism is the evolution of that. Neocons are essentially the right wing of the neoliberal establishment. That's why our only choices are neocons and neolibs

2017-07-19 06:47:18 UTC  

It's essentially liberalism on a global scale

2017-07-19 06:47:22 UTC  

Not really?

2017-07-19 06:48:09 UTC  

Liberal doesn't refer to capitalism specifically. Civil liberties are more important.