Message from @MrSally

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2017-07-19 06:45:58 UTC  

No, it is vastly different from liberalism.

2017-07-19 06:46:03 UTC  

*Vastly*.

2017-07-19 06:46:05 UTC  

No it's not

2017-07-19 06:46:57 UTC  

Liberalism refers to the capitalist economic system, neoliberalism is the evolution of that. Neocons are essentially the right wing of the neoliberal establishment. That's why our only choices are neocons and neolibs

2017-07-19 06:47:18 UTC  

It's essentially liberalism on a global scale

2017-07-19 06:47:22 UTC  

Not really?

2017-07-19 06:48:09 UTC  

Liberal doesn't refer to capitalism specifically. Civil liberties are more important.

2017-07-19 06:48:11 UTC  

The Obama administration wasn't much different than the Bush administration when you look at actual policy

2017-07-19 06:48:24 UTC  

Civil Liberties are a spook

2017-07-19 06:48:35 UTC  

Stirner was a crazy fool.

2017-07-19 06:49:25 UTC  

They're still an illusion. The fact is, additional civil liberties are only a band aid to appease the working class to their economic oppression

2017-07-19 06:49:32 UTC  

Liberal nonsense

2017-07-19 06:49:39 UTC  

Even when you vote you're engaging in violence

2017-07-19 06:49:49 UTC  

Spooks are the super-ego telling the ego that something might be a good idea.

2017-07-19 06:50:51 UTC  

Doesn't matter, the fact is civil liberties are technically privileges, they can be easily taken away by whomever has the most guns (or force) in this case the government

2017-07-19 06:51:06 UTC  

Stirner died the year Freud was born. People didn't know this stuff and Stirner was not trained in psychoanalysis, so his answer for moral convictions was "spooks".

2017-07-19 06:51:18 UTC  

Individualism is willing slavery.

2017-07-19 06:52:07 UTC  

Liberty is not given, it is self-evident.

2017-07-19 06:52:28 UTC  

You do not grant a person their personhood.

2017-07-19 06:52:34 UTC  

Neither does society.

2017-07-19 06:52:44 UTC  

It exists with them, and that is sacred.

2017-07-19 06:53:10 UTC  

That's why tankies are sick fucking bastards who should be locked up for being dangerous sociopaths.

2017-07-19 06:53:19 UTC  

My point is still vaild with regards to "rights" being privileges. They're based on a so called "divine right". God does not exist. Not to mention it doesn't matter if they're "self evident" if no government is willing to grant them. "rights" have to be earned. They are not given.

2017-07-19 06:54:10 UTC  

Tankies are the most authentic in the Heideggerian sense. Anarchists lie about creating a stateless society, meanwhile they built gulags under the CNT-FAI.

2017-07-19 06:54:19 UTC  

At least Tankies are honest about their intentions.

2017-07-19 06:54:52 UTC  

Honor in ripping peoples' lives away is probably one of the scummiest and most degenerate ideas of honor I have ever heard.

2017-07-19 06:55:51 UTC  

How am I "ripping peoples' lives away"? I'm protecting the revolution from demagogues who want to hijack democracy to advance their own narcissistic interests.

2017-07-19 06:56:19 UTC  

Yeah except none of that actually happened and the people running it were just as narcissistic.

2017-07-19 06:56:19 UTC  

I'm literally protecting the revolution.

2017-07-19 06:56:58 UTC  

I guess you're happy with your 1 year of "real socialism" kek

2017-07-19 06:57:30 UTC  

Stalin protected the revolution from reactionaries yet the CNT got easily crushed by the meager armies of Spain

2017-07-19 06:58:07 UTC  

Who did Stalin have to protect his shit from? Emaciated peasants?

2017-07-19 06:58:37 UTC  

National Capitalists calling themselves national socialists

2017-07-19 06:58:46 UTC  

i.e. Nazis

2017-07-19 06:59:07 UTC  

I'm also happy Trotsky got the Pick

2017-07-19 06:59:29 UTC  

I'm talking about after World War II. The Nazis just wanted to dominate the whole world. Stalin was an asshole afterwards too.

2017-07-19 06:59:57 UTC  

Asshole =/= not a socialist

2017-07-19 07:00:34 UTC  

Also a fucktard with a tenuous grasp on theory.

2017-07-19 07:00:49 UTC  

A great man who defended socialism and built soviet industry

2017-07-19 07:01:18 UTC  

If it wasn't for scumbags like Khrushchev we might have socialism today