Message from @IVAN CHESNOKOV

Discord ID: 337371871366610945


2017-07-19 23:09:26 UTC  

I do understand what racism is

2017-07-19 23:09:39 UTC  

You make your own definition of racism to fit your agenda

2017-07-19 23:10:28 UTC  

You can call it ethnicism or whatever the fuck you want to call it, most people call it racism

2017-07-19 23:10:39 UTC  

It's discrimination based off of ethnicity

2017-07-19 23:10:57 UTC  

but they arent discriminating because of ethnicity

2017-07-19 23:11:12 UTC  

It goes for any foreigners who take the jobs of working class people in that country

2017-07-19 23:11:27 UTC  

They are against mass immigration from any country because it denies citizens of their jobs

2017-07-19 23:11:54 UTC  

no, they want to blame the foreigners to make people forget that the real reason is capitalism

2017-07-19 23:13:14 UTC  

How are they racist

2017-07-19 23:13:25 UTC  

For not wanting outside non-citizens to take the jobs of citizens

2017-07-19 23:13:34 UTC  

do you think the situation for workers will get better if you kicked out all the foreigners?

2017-07-19 23:13:44 UTC  

>when you want to drink some water, but fuccing nestle bought the whole reserve of Africas clean water

2017-07-19 23:13:50 UTC  

do you think companies would pay people more or that working rights would get better?

2017-07-19 23:14:27 UTC  

When traditonal british street businesses are replaced by halal donner kebab shops

2017-07-19 23:14:29 UTC  

will it help the fight for working rights if we just go and attack our working class comrades because they're from a different country?

2017-07-19 23:14:32 UTC  

Then I have a problem

2017-07-19 23:14:46 UTC  

For the sake of the dialogue, we're all concerned about the same thing, the working class.

The immigration isn't 'the problem' it's that the jobs will be lost due to the lack of organization the immigrants possess. They're easy scabs. Immigration makes perfect sense to business perspectives.

Why hire union when I can out source?

The symptom of the problem is the job loss, which is in itself, another problem.

2017-07-19 23:15:12 UTC  

^

2017-07-19 23:15:14 UTC  

Capitalists love immigrants

2017-07-19 23:15:14 UTC  

Mostly that

2017-07-19 23:15:22 UTC  

cheap labor

2017-07-19 23:15:22 UTC  

They love them because they work cheap

2017-07-19 23:15:25 UTC  

the only way the workers can improve their condition in life is to fight together, with solidarity, against the ruling class

2017-07-19 23:15:40 UTC  

^

2017-07-19 23:15:46 UTC  

h o w a r e u k i p r a c i s t

2017-07-19 23:16:17 UTC  

because they use racist rhetoric, because they blame immigrants for the problems of capitalism, because they use immigrants as scapegoats

2017-07-19 23:16:59 UTC  

what racist rhetoric?

2017-07-19 23:17:22 UTC  

And not wanting immigrants in your country to work is Anti-Capitalism

2017-07-19 23:17:36 UTC  

its basically >hurr durr blacks are wrothless lololol

2017-07-19 23:17:53 UTC  

no, socialism is about the international working class

2017-07-19 23:18:19 UTC  

to fight together with working class comrades across the world in a common struggle

2017-07-19 23:18:33 UTC  

not to be divided by national boundaries against each other

2017-07-19 23:19:05 UTC  

Make unionization part of requirements for work visas.

2017-07-19 23:19:15 UTC  

then why did socialist germany and the soviet union build a wall in berlin

2017-07-19 23:20:31 UTC  

because the economic conditions in West Germany were better due to most of the Eastern Bloc still being destroyed after WWII, plus most of the world and therefore the resources and trade of the world were under Western control

2017-07-19 23:20:49 UTC  

So why did they build a wall

2017-07-19 23:20:57 UTC  

If socialists were for open borders

2017-07-19 23:21:11 UTC  

which created a migration crisis between East and West Germany where East Germany could not survive as many people were leaving for the West, which threatened the socialist project

2017-07-19 23:21:37 UTC  

So they kept people in against their will

2017-07-19 23:22:16 UTC  

mmm, how is a person's will defined? The Americans are quite good at making propaganda

2017-07-19 23:22:23 UTC  

better than anyone else by far