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It's better than capitalism because it forces capital to "care" more.
Agreed, it's not a welfare state, but it also does not abolish classes or put the means of production in the hands of the workers.
Puts people in a better position in their lives.
socialism is the abolition of classes and the means of production in the hands of the workers
That's communism
but in the Leninist narrative, the distinction is if there is a state or not
Communism involves abolition of the state.
Nothing short of it and it's not communism.
If you still have a state, you are not communist.
You're just commies.
Socialism has a state.
It might.
There is stateless socialism.
The very notion of the Social Contract is Statist.
Not at all.
Yes, it's called communism, if there is no state and is socialist.
But I believe in democracy.
Well... there isn't stateless socialism.
I don't believe in democracy.
There is stateless socialism. Anarcho-socialism is a thing that exists.
all ideals cannot exist
You cannot have anarchy and socialism.
that's why they're called ideals
I know. But it isn't currently being done, aside from hippie communes that inevitably fail.
@Deleted User agreed about idealism.
Well I understand your ideology, but communes don't fail.
They're lovely places.
I suggest you try it out sometime.
The Paris Commune totally failed...
I'd love to if it weren't for the druggies
because it was invaded
Drugs make everything better.
@Deleted User By?
If you've never taken LSD before I don't think I can continue speaking to you.
I've taken it several times
As well as ayahuasca
Prussia
There's no way a bunch of people frying on acid and smoking weed all day can form a functional society.
No.... The Paris Commune arose after Prussia Invaded France in 1870-71 and removed Naopleon the 3rd. Prussia didn't exist during the time of the Paris commune in 1871 as a Nation, but as a state of the newly formed German Reich. @Deleted User
No one invaded the Paris Commune, it simply failed.