Message from @olev
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Yes. That was an Austrian painter, what about him?
@Deleted User oh sure
(Accidentally pressed enter on my keyboard)
@Deleted User I'd never contest that
What was Hitler's socialism? @Deleted User
Let me find the quote,
Hitler was during the 20's when his movement was taking shape, but during the 30's he discarded it when he liked the extra benefits and power he could get from the already established big corporations.
The problem with that sort of usage of quotes is that they are as much propaganda as they are statements about policy
Look at the mans actions not his words is what I'd advise
That isn't socialism, though
@olev Who says so?
Well first of all, socialism is a range of economic systems
He seems to be describing collectivism
I'm not sure, but he definitely isn't talking about an economic system in that quote
@Apollo'sJest The issue with that is most of the info about the actions of him are usually biased to hell.
@Deleted User not wrong
@Deleted User Plus we are talking about a VERY unusual context anyway: the preparation of or actual performance of total war. A context in whici it is hard to evalue an economic or social system for what it would be in normal circumstances.
Than there is the (not that silly) argument that all that Hitler advocated might just have been in the interest of the immediate political profit of his political movement thus ideologically void
Which there are different types of
Usually collective, public, cooperative
Nazi Germany wasn't socialist
Of course there was free healthcare, free education and such
But that doesn't really mean it was socialist
NAzi Germany had socialised courts (for some types of infraction), it had a limit on the sum total of wealth one (household rather than person) could own
Again, socialism is an economic system
Not a set of policies
Nazi Germany had massive public spending on infrastructure and such
No it's not an economic system, it's a political ideology
and Mussilini ittereated upon it
How is socialism a political ideology?
he made this thing called Fascism
Okay, go on
I'm sorry for quotink wikipedia but: "Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production,[10] as well as the political theories, and movements associated with them."
Literally the first line of the article
That supports my side
lol wut?
I said socialism is an economic system