Message from @Vic Chong

Discord ID: 359497504791855104


2017-09-19 00:25:50 UTC  

but nothing topples the many variances of communism

2017-09-19 00:26:04 UTC  

Though that is about it, civil liberties are increased majorly, former crimes are decriminalized, and the state is granted much more power.

2017-09-19 00:27:13 UTC  

And not to mention, unions and workers, do not gain that much more power over their jobs.

2017-09-19 00:29:36 UTC  

The thing is I believe socialism has a lot more to do with labor and capital relation rather than the ideas people have created of it somehow meaning everyone is equal or the state does everything

2017-09-19 00:29:58 UTC  

social equality

2017-09-19 00:30:01 UTC  

is a futile goal

2017-09-19 00:30:05 UTC  

pointless

2017-09-19 00:30:07 UTC  

and impossible

2017-09-19 00:30:07 UTC  

Equality is a false god.

2017-09-19 00:30:32 UTC  

why the fuck don't you focus on making your middle class wealthy

2017-09-19 00:30:35 UTC  

quit whining

2017-09-19 00:30:42 UTC  

about others being more successful

2017-09-19 00:31:16 UTC  

@Your Favorite Martian =3 Now, getting back on track, how do you plan on maintaining and managing social equality?

2017-09-19 00:31:33 UTC  

(Be right back, I have to do something)

2017-09-19 00:31:54 UTC  

I do currently believe though that centrally planned economies like the USSR were massively inefficient

2017-09-19 00:32:42 UTC  

From what I've read socialism isn't really based on "equality" like everyone doesn't make the same money or have the same wealth

2017-09-19 00:33:27 UTC  

But rather people are paid based on the amount of labor they put into a product I think

2017-09-19 00:33:45 UTC  

The problem is it's all kinda based around this idea of the labor theory of value which I don't exactly understand

2017-09-19 00:33:48 UTC  

Fully yet

2017-09-19 00:34:12 UTC  

Which is why I'm tryna learn before I make my mind up about somethin

2017-09-19 00:34:44 UTC  

The modern middle class is the proletariat

2017-09-19 00:35:07 UTC  

the middle/lower class proletariat worker is the majority in America

2017-09-19 00:39:27 UTC  

Back.

2017-09-19 00:40:01 UTC  

@Your Favorite Martian =3 A centrally planned economy can work, but only in very small communities.

2017-09-19 00:40:40 UTC  

Which I why I think I can get some of the understanding of anarchists and anarcho syndicalists.

2017-09-19 00:50:50 UTC  

Was that the goal of pol pot?
I wonder.

2017-09-19 00:58:09 UTC  

@Deleted User Out of curiosity, who is James Mason you spoke of?

2017-09-19 00:58:29 UTC  

Never heard of him?

2017-09-19 00:59:25 UTC  

No, google search brings up some actor

2017-09-19 00:59:34 UTC  

And I know quite few fringe fascist ideologists

2017-09-19 01:00:46 UTC  

I don't blame you, a person would have to have an above basic level of understandings of fascism in order to even know him, he wrote the book seige, you should look into him, he is quite the interesting personality.

2017-09-19 01:01:01 UTC  

The book seige, is about as important to modern fascism as mein kampf is.

2017-09-19 01:07:29 UTC  

Interesting, thanks

2017-09-19 02:02:20 UTC  

He's also a George Lincoln Rockwell disciple, which is the worst thing you can be, basically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Mason_(National_Socialist)

2017-09-19 05:48:54 UTC  

nigger

2017-09-19 05:58:11 UTC  

uuhhhhh dab