Message from @Riefen

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2017-06-24 13:27:33 UTC  

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2017-06-24 13:27:49 UTC  

Real communism hasn't been tried before

2017-06-24 13:32:36 UTC  

And how many more millions need to starve to death before people stop trying to get communism correct?

2017-06-24 13:40:34 UTC  

Tbqh that definition of real socialism would work if we had a society of even 100+ IQ people who all understood the benefits of contributing to a collective community, and then just got rid of the rest.

The issue is, "the rest" is currently at the very least 5 billion people.

2017-06-24 13:41:33 UTC  

Exactly Riefen. "Democratically control" is where it stops being viable. Democracy allows those who should have no say to have a voice.

2017-06-24 13:41:53 UTC  

IMO, those who have no say= low IQ

2017-06-24 13:42:04 UTC  

= minorities who think they are entitled

2017-06-24 13:42:32 UTC  

= LGBTQ, as they will have no kids therefore no legacy or offspring, so why do they get to make choices

2017-06-24 13:42:35 UTC  

And so on

2017-06-24 13:42:37 UTC  

Democracy is great in an oligarchy imo

2017-06-24 13:42:51 UTC  

I'd rather have a meritocracy

2017-06-24 13:42:56 UTC  

Only the very peak of the society should be voting if it's a democracy

2017-06-24 13:43:04 UTC  

Exactly.

2017-06-24 13:43:35 UTC  

How many uneducated fucking idiots blindly followed Hillary, or even trump for that matter just on the basis of the two party system.

2017-06-24 13:43:42 UTC  

Oh, absolutely would prefer a meritocracy, but I've always been taught/heard that oligarchy encompasses that

Kinda like fascism encompasses NatSoc and Falange

2017-06-24 13:43:58 UTC  

Meritocracy is a win.

2017-06-24 13:44:59 UTC  

I could be wrong on that oligarchy / meritocracy thing, if so then for sure let me know.

Yeah, the amount of people supporting any candidate this past election just because of reasons or feefees as opposed to logic is a perfect example of why the voting pool needs to shrink

2017-06-24 13:45:08 UTC  

The gene pool while we're at it tbh

2017-06-24 13:45:54 UTC  

I still don't know if the majority of fascists are capitalists.

2017-06-24 13:46:28 UTC  

I've seen the argument for capitalism and it seems very selfish for a non materialistic, non selfish political cause.

2017-06-24 13:55:16 UTC  

Small scale capitalism, in the sense of "Mr. Baker is a doctor but, since he was a child, has wanted to open a bookstore. He's been saving money, and when he retires, opens his own bookstore." - the free enterprise aspect is trad as it gets and very wholesome.

Large scale capitalism, "Schlomo informs Moshe that they are going to start selling water for $2 a gallon instead of 50 cents" is inherently evil.

2017-06-24 13:56:54 UTC  

Bingo. So there is an agreed middle ground, that's refreshing.

2017-06-24 13:56:57 UTC  

I like the idea of rationing necessities and money earned through your career can fund desires.

For example, public transportation being paid for by taxes but cars being a private investment.

2017-06-24 13:57:22 UTC  

^^^^ I like

2017-06-24 14:04:18 UTC  

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2017-06-24 14:04:20 UTC  

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2017-06-24 14:04:25 UTC  

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2017-06-24 14:04:35 UTC  

These shitty cartoons always have me rolling lmao

2017-06-24 14:04:46 UTC  

Hey you guys were talking about free market economics

2017-06-24 14:05:08 UTC  

Oh?

2017-06-24 14:05:20 UTC  

I have a good copy pasta I made up about 3rd position economics

2017-06-24 14:07:32 UTC  
2017-06-24 14:07:35 UTC  

To my understanding, third positionism means that the market is free, however, if the business threatens the state, or harms the nation's citizens, by either outsourcing jobs, relocating, making deals with enemy nations, or hiring immigrants because they are cheaper, the state will take over the business, and run it the right way. Theres also protectionism in trade. There is a free market, until a business/corporation breaks one of the rules.
-Outsources jobs to third world countries
-outsources hq to save on taxes
-uses immigrants as sources of cheap labor
-sells out to other competing nations
If a rule is broken, the government will seize the company, control it until it is running functionally within the parameters set by the gov, then return the business to reappoint a CEO, or any other positions made vacant by wrong doers.
Welfare is only for veterans, the elderly, and the disabled. If you legitimately can not get a job, you will do government work, like road work, construction, renovation, etc, for a livable wage that will support you and your family.

2017-06-24 14:08:14 UTC  

It's basically free market for the Middle class because that's what works, and regulation for huge corporations and the like

2017-06-24 14:09:12 UTC  

Low taxes and regulations on middle and lower but higher taxes on corporations and super rich because they can afford it, protectionism to guard against malpractice ect

2017-06-24 14:10:01 UTC  

That sounds 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

2017-06-24 14:10:17 UTC  

Free market middle class is outstanding.

2017-06-24 14:38:53 UTC  

Thank you

2017-06-24 14:45:11 UTC  

@Nathan TX Economic distribution follows the pareto principle. Any tax plan that violates this principle instead of working with it will corrupt the governing institutions.

2017-06-24 14:52:19 UTC  

What do you mean

2017-06-24 14:52:25 UTC  

There isn't much distribution going on