Message from @quiscalus

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2017-12-05 09:10:25 UTC  

literally everyone here

2017-12-05 09:10:41 UTC  

are you cosplaying as that guy from adventure time

2017-12-05 09:10:43 UTC  

lemongrab?

2017-12-05 09:10:48 UTC  

I personally just consumed leftist media, donated to charity, and tried to vote in the best way possible as a leftist

2017-12-05 09:10:52 UTC  

He means a political organization whose views and aims are opposed to either of the major capitalist parties.

2017-12-05 09:11:05 UTC  

he said leftist

2017-12-05 09:11:47 UTC  

I have never been part of any organization I feel kind of strange going into any formal thing like this I would hate for it to get back to my work

2017-12-05 09:11:55 UTC  

I'm almost certain he is talking about a socialist organization.

2017-12-05 09:12:31 UTC  

i will encourage you to partake in the political process, however i will also warn you that many of these groups have violent associations with them

2017-12-05 09:12:43 UTC  

you may want to avoid them if you care about your job

2017-12-05 09:12:53 UTC  

I have not read enough theory to properly define my beliefs like I am unsure about markets, and currency or labor vouchers, etc?

2017-12-05 09:13:14 UTC  

yeah I am not interested in losing my job or my license to carry a gun

2017-12-05 09:13:29 UTC  

@quiscalus You will undergo a trial phase with any of the major socialist organizations in which your theoretical knowledge will be tested.

2017-12-05 09:13:34 UTC  

so you are fairly new to this realm then

2017-12-05 09:13:50 UTC  

this realm of politics

2017-12-05 09:14:07 UTC  

very mean i'll tell you that

2017-12-05 09:14:19 UTC  

During this time you will be educated on Marxist theory.

2017-12-05 09:14:43 UTC  

I have been a left leaning liberal for a while just never read or listened to anything serious theory wise like never read capital from marx or any of lenin's stuff either

2017-12-05 09:15:36 UTC  

I was a person to confused the welfare state with socialism because that is an idea that is popular in mainstream politics

2017-12-05 09:16:06 UTC  

The organizations of which I speak are to the left of liberalism. I highly suggest you delve into the major Marxist works beforehand. Read some Marx and Lenin.

2017-12-05 09:16:07 UTC  

also that being against capitalism was being against trade or not owning personal property

2017-12-05 09:16:44 UTC  

well look, if i could give you any advice, it's to be open-minded

2017-12-05 09:16:49 UTC  

the left is pretty hard at attracting average people because lots of leftist ideas are distorted to appear unappealing

2017-12-05 09:16:52 UTC  

for every marxist theory you read, read a fascist theory

2017-12-05 09:16:58 UTC  

and a capitalist one

2017-12-05 09:17:02 UTC  

and so forth

2017-12-05 09:17:11 UTC  

and decide which sounds right for you

2017-12-05 09:17:33 UTC  

I'm not suggesting you dive head-first into Das Kapital but check out things like "State and Revolution" and "Value, Price and Profit".

2017-12-05 09:18:02 UTC  

i'm not big into indoctrinating people just by teaching them one side of the story

2017-12-05 09:18:10 UTC  

Easy reads compared to the more dense tomes that are available.

2017-12-05 09:18:24 UTC  

not saying any side is wrong or right, i just encourage people to check out each side of the spectrum

2017-12-05 09:18:33 UTC  

why do people not make leftist theory easier to process the right seems to be doing a great job at breaking down their views to attract the white working class as they lose power

2017-12-05 09:19:01 UTC  

I've been a Marxist for a few years now and am intimately familiar with various schools of thought, such as Austrolibertarianism and Keynesianism.

2017-12-05 09:19:28 UTC  

I had to educate and annihilate an Ancap the other day.

2017-12-05 09:19:45 UTC  

that's another thing

2017-12-05 09:19:52 UTC  

whatever you do, don't become an anarchist

2017-12-05 09:20:01 UTC  

their rhetoric sounds nice, their policies not so

2017-12-05 09:20:06 UTC  

because well

2017-12-05 09:20:08 UTC  

they have none

2017-12-05 09:20:09 UTC  

He assumed that because I was a Marxist, I hadn't read guys like Menger, Von Mises, Hayek and Rothbard. He was sorely mistaken.

2017-12-05 09:20:20 UTC  

yeah I used to be a 19yo anprim and read zerzan and TK but I think it is a bit absurd