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allah is great
يا هلا بالعرصات
القضيب
ازيكم؟
Allahu Akbar!
Allahu Akbar!
Allahu Akbar!
Allahu Akbar!
Allahu Akbar!
دحشو بطيزك يا جحبه
allahu akbar.
allahu akbar b tizak ya 3ars
allah akbar
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Allah rules in heaven
Hitler rules on earth
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Allah rules in heaven
and
he also rules on earth
Who rules in Hell tho.
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@National Trotskyist According to Christians, Lucifer dishes out the torturing doesn't he? But according to Islam, Lucifer will be tortured, and angels will be doing the torturing to anyone in Hell
@Sn0w ❄ According to Christians, Hell is a place of eternal rivalisation, in that way no one really rules it, albeit some like Satan or Lucifer have been claimed as leaders. I've heard versions saying there are like 3 leaders.
Protestants, some for example don't believe Satan rules Hell, but he actually dwells on Earth and is tormented in Hell.
I don't think Lucifer or any of the devils exists in Islam, as no angel can fall in it.
The Jewish Sitra Akha is pretty close to the Christian conception of Hell, it is manifestation of the evil sephiroths, qlippoth.
There are 3 categories of evil beings in Judaism, The demons/shedim, close to Islamic djinni, the spawn of Lilith and the fallen angels/devils of Samael.
Meant Judaism, fug
Well Sitra Akha is the place for Samael buddies at least
And yeah it's claimed in Christianity that they torture the souls there.
Orthodoxes even got a different from Catholic version of Purgatory, the aerial toll houses/mytarstva, where they're tempted by them before deciding their fate of going to Heaven.
Lucifer does exists in Islam and so do the devils. But yeah you're right about the non-existence of fallen angels
In Islam, he's a demon. Demons (Jinn), like humans, have free will, whereas angels don't. That's why Muslims claim he wasn't an angel, as angels are basically God's practically-mindless pawns (still ultimately good though) who do his bidding. One of the biggest sins in Islam is to contact a demon (be it through magic or whatever) as well as it being a huge sin on a demon to possess a human
A devil is basically an evil demon.
I know that in Christianity, all demons are all evil, there isn't the idea of a "good" demon @National Trotskyist
From what I've heard, Lucifer is not Satan, and that assigning that name to Satan is something that arose from misinterpretation and mistranslation of old Hebrew and Christian texts
A misinterpretation that has become ingrained in mainstream theology
Well as far as I'm aware, the name Lucifer is used by Christians
It was the Latin word for morning star
Used in some passage in the book of Isaiah
The arabic name for Lucifer is iblees. The Arabic name for Satan is Sheytan. In Islam, they're the same being. I don't know if they are or aren't according to Christian/Judaic beliefs, but I always assumed they were
Lucifer original appeared within theological scripture as "morning star" in Isaiah 14:12