Message from @Sn0w ❄

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2017-11-10 00:51:35 UTC  

I believe his ability to turn water into wine was *supposed* to contradict science, to prove him

2017-11-10 00:52:34 UTC  

Along with his other abilities

2017-11-10 00:53:54 UTC  

Yeah, as I said

2017-11-10 00:54:46 UTC  

If Jesus was God on Earth, or even a prophet who acted on behalf of God, of course he'd be able to violate natural law to prove his divine nature

2017-11-10 00:55:36 UTC  

I know a creationist who believes the Earth was formed 5000 years ago. But he also has a masters degree in environmental sciences and he's seen trees that are 6000 years old. I have no comment to that

2017-11-10 00:55:44 UTC  

Yeah

2017-11-10 00:55:45 UTC  

top kek

2017-11-10 00:56:15 UTC  

It sounds like you were going to add a "but"

2017-11-10 00:57:19 UTC  

A "but" to what?

2017-11-10 00:57:39 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/353373501354278922/378347442002722818/Screenshot_20171109-175723.jpg

2017-11-10 00:58:29 UTC  

Jesus:
"I'm gonna prove my divinity by doing impossible stuff"
*does impossible stuff*

2017-11-10 00:59:49 UTC  

I don't believe Jesus and the miracles, but it isn't remotely absurd for someone who does believe in Jesus's divinity to believe that he did those things

2017-11-10 01:00:15 UTC  

Oh, I get it

2017-11-10 01:00:26 UTC  

It's like believing in Zeus, and then believing that Zeus did actually kill people with lightning

2017-11-10 01:00:35 UTC  

Yeahhh

2017-11-10 01:00:38 UTC  

Hahaha

2017-11-10 01:01:06 UTC  

If you believe in the strange, it's not surprising that the strange would do something strange

2017-11-10 01:01:13 UTC  

Exactly

2017-11-10 01:01:27 UTC  

Yeahh I get that

2017-11-10 01:02:23 UTC  

I do like New Testament Christian values, even if I don't believe Jesus was actually some divine being or profit

2017-11-10 01:03:07 UTC  

What do you believe he was

2017-11-10 01:04:46 UTC  

Some spiritual leader amongst the Jews in the Roman province of Palestine. Some dude who taught good morals, and lived an acetic lifestyle

2017-11-10 01:05:07 UTC  

But got crucified because the Romans didn't like the Jews flocking around this guy

2017-11-10 01:06:04 UTC  

Hmm

2017-11-10 01:07:22 UTC  

Your beliefs tend to parallel Abrahamic beliefs more or less, but you're not really Christian, Muslim or Jewish

2017-11-10 01:07:49 UTC  

I'm somewhere between atheistic and agnostic

2017-11-10 01:08:37 UTC  

I find it hard to believe that Jesus was 100% made up, contrary to what a lot of hardcore atheists like to believe

2017-11-10 01:08:50 UTC  

A religion doesn't just spawn from nothing

2017-11-10 01:09:25 UTC  

Yeah especially of this caliber

2017-11-10 01:10:11 UTC  

If you want a religion based on falsehoods, I'd turn to Mormonism or scientology

2017-11-10 01:10:18 UTC  

The former is more controversial

2017-11-10 01:10:41 UTC  

I don't actually have an issue with the Mormon church itself

2017-11-10 01:10:49 UTC  

I could never be a Mormon

2017-11-10 01:10:59 UTC  

Nor could I

2017-11-10 01:11:07 UTC  

It was founded by a known con-man

2017-11-10 01:12:07 UTC  

That I didn't know

2017-11-10 01:12:45 UTC  

Why do you say that about scientology though

2017-11-10 01:14:06 UTC  

The Holy Book of scientology is litterally a science fiction novel

2017-11-10 01:15:28 UTC  

Or so I hear

2017-11-10 01:15:56 UTC  

But Scientology is a cult of rich people, not a true religion, in my eyes

2017-11-10 01:16:36 UTC  

Well it sounds almost like my favorite religious books of Clopology and Ponyism