Message from @Chalin

Discord ID: 378348633730449410


2017-11-10 00:51:04 UTC  

That's a lot of contradictions. You know if the bible was never changed from how it was originally revealed, there would have been no need for the Quran, by Muslim beliefs at least

2017-11-10 00:51:35 UTC  

I believe his ability to turn water into wine was *supposed* to contradict science, to prove him

2017-11-10 00:52:34 UTC  

Along with his other abilities

2017-11-10 00:53:54 UTC  

Yeah, as I said

2017-11-10 00:54:46 UTC  

If Jesus was God on Earth, or even a prophet who acted on behalf of God, of course he'd be able to violate natural law to prove his divine nature

2017-11-10 00:55:36 UTC  

I know a creationist who believes the Earth was formed 5000 years ago. But he also has a masters degree in environmental sciences and he's seen trees that are 6000 years old. I have no comment to that

2017-11-10 00:55:44 UTC  

Yeah

2017-11-10 00:55:45 UTC  

top kek

2017-11-10 00:56:15 UTC  

It sounds like you were going to add a "but"

2017-11-10 00:57:19 UTC  

A "but" to what?

2017-11-10 00:57:39 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/353373501354278922/378347442002722818/Screenshot_20171109-175723.jpg

2017-11-10 00:58:29 UTC  

Jesus:
"I'm gonna prove my divinity by doing impossible stuff"
*does impossible stuff*

2017-11-10 00:59:49 UTC  

I don't believe Jesus and the miracles, but it isn't remotely absurd for someone who does believe in Jesus's divinity to believe that he did those things

2017-11-10 01:00:15 UTC  

Oh, I get it

2017-11-10 01:00:26 UTC  

It's like believing in Zeus, and then believing that Zeus did actually kill people with lightning

2017-11-10 01:00:35 UTC  

Yeahhh

2017-11-10 01:00:38 UTC  

Hahaha

2017-11-10 01:01:06 UTC  

If you believe in the strange, it's not surprising that the strange would do something strange

2017-11-10 01:01:13 UTC  

Exactly

2017-11-10 01:01:27 UTC  

Yeahh I get that

2017-11-10 01:02:23 UTC  

I do like New Testament Christian values, even if I don't believe Jesus was actually some divine being or profit

2017-11-10 01:03:07 UTC  

What do you believe he was

2017-11-10 01:04:46 UTC  

Some spiritual leader amongst the Jews in the Roman province of Palestine. Some dude who taught good morals, and lived an acetic lifestyle

2017-11-10 01:05:07 UTC  

But got crucified because the Romans didn't like the Jews flocking around this guy

2017-11-10 01:06:04 UTC  

Hmm

2017-11-10 01:07:22 UTC  

Your beliefs tend to parallel Abrahamic beliefs more or less, but you're not really Christian, Muslim or Jewish

2017-11-10 01:07:49 UTC  

I'm somewhere between atheistic and agnostic

2017-11-10 01:08:37 UTC  

I find it hard to believe that Jesus was 100% made up, contrary to what a lot of hardcore atheists like to believe

2017-11-10 01:08:50 UTC  

A religion doesn't just spawn from nothing

2017-11-10 01:09:25 UTC  

Yeah especially of this caliber

2017-11-10 01:10:11 UTC  

If you want a religion based on falsehoods, I'd turn to Mormonism or scientology

2017-11-10 01:10:18 UTC  

The former is more controversial

2017-11-10 01:10:41 UTC  

I don't actually have an issue with the Mormon church itself

2017-11-10 01:10:49 UTC  

I could never be a Mormon

2017-11-10 01:10:59 UTC  

Nor could I

2017-11-10 01:11:07 UTC  

It was founded by a known con-man

2017-11-10 01:12:07 UTC  

That I didn't know

2017-11-10 01:12:45 UTC  

Why do you say that about scientology though

2017-11-10 01:14:06 UTC  

The Holy Book of scientology is litterally a science fiction novel

2017-11-10 01:15:28 UTC  

Or so I hear

2017-11-10 01:15:56 UTC  

But Scientology is a cult of rich people, not a true religion, in my eyes