Message from @01MEGA

Discord ID: 321466212938809344


2017-06-06 01:46:12 UTC  

there's no crusade, you can lick on the "open link" button to open it on your browser and read on full size. the server has been flooded with reactionaries and conservatives since i got here, there's virtually no serious leftist discussions and the right wingers have made themselves clear that they have no intentions on having serious dialogues with anyone, but the delusional owner keeps thinking his little server could be used to "train" leftists in debating right wingers. he has very little understanding of his own theory, and admitted to me that he lied about spending "15 years to read on marxism", you can read from the convo i posted above to see why the insult was deserving. keep in mind this was back when i was an anarchist, so i said im not a marxist at the end, i am a marxist now as you can see.

2017-06-06 01:47:02 UTC  

Well i dont understand this politics hoo ha but the chat could be improved

2017-06-06 01:47:19 UTC  

Im just in chagre of the japanese channel and we dont talk about politics so

2017-06-06 01:47:22 UTC  

Just normal things

2017-06-06 01:47:33 UTC  

thats fine, people who want to learn should be given an opportunity to participate in serious discussions and ask questions, not have to deal with stupid meme shitposts

2017-06-06 01:47:42 UTC  

Youre right...

2017-06-06 01:47:42 UTC  

if you want, i can send you an invite to the two other leftypol servers

2017-06-06 01:47:48 UTC  

Sure i guess!

2017-06-06 01:47:55 UTC  

they're much much more well-organized and im thinking of moving all the actual leftists here to there

2017-06-06 01:49:08 UTC  

I still dunno what a leftist is

2017-06-06 01:49:27 UTC  

not to mention the language separation is absolutely moronic, the point is to be able to communicate in the same language for the sake of solidarity, not jerk each other off in their native language. and hardly anyone use the same language as the channel they're in anyways

2017-06-06 01:49:28 UTC  

@01MEGA It seems that if you are Marxist now, you did learn. What is flawed with the idea of 'training' leftists in debating here?

2017-06-06 01:49:43 UTC  

the channels set up is stupid in both theory AND practice

2017-06-06 01:50:12 UTC  

(Open original did work)

2017-06-06 01:50:14 UTC  

@Deleted User what do you mean? i didnt learn anything from here at all, im in 10 other leftist channels and talked with a hegelian in one of them, who convinced me from being an anarcho-primitivist

2017-06-06 01:50:43 UTC  

the server has ineffectual modding, what matters is what works now, not if it worked before

2017-06-06 01:50:58 UTC  

just look at the chat history, whens the last time you saw a serious productive discussion on here

2017-06-06 01:51:21 UTC  

i dont mind a server with shitposting as long as it has some serious discussions with it, but this one has ntohing but shitpost, and the owner is too ineffectual to do anything

2017-06-06 01:51:29 UTC  

I must be missing out! Where are these channels with great discussions like this?

2017-06-06 01:51:46 UTC  

are you a leftist or someone sympathetic to the left

2017-06-06 01:51:57 UTC  

because im not risking inviting another stupid reactionary

2017-06-06 01:52:20 UTC  

Maybe I can wait a little longer then.

2017-06-06 01:52:58 UTC  

I read your image, so what do you mean that online discussions are not material? Of course they are.

2017-06-06 01:54:00 UTC  

online discussions are an exchange and evaluation of other people's and one's own ideas, they dont have much impact on the world if everyone just do nothing but discuss. you cant apply the same principles of real life onto an internet chatroom

2017-06-06 01:54:09 UTC  

(I always try to have good discussions here, I have exposed several irrational beliefs here)

2017-06-06 01:54:14 UTC  

you keep saying that, but this server has been disfunctional for a long time now

2017-06-06 01:54:26 UTC  

its not a leftist server anymore

2017-06-06 01:54:38 UTC  

its filled with reactionaries and people who dont even know anything about politics or even english

2017-06-06 01:55:16 UTC  

this has happened 3 times before with leftypol international

2017-06-06 01:55:19 UTC  

not once or twice

2017-06-06 01:55:39 UTC  

It seems you are very motivated to effect change in the 'real world'. But I fear this is partly reactionary, a misunderstanding of what Marxism is.

2017-06-06 01:55:47 UTC  

3 times the same idea had to be discarded because the server owner is too caught up in his stupid little idealistic bubble of a perfect world where everyone is rational

2017-06-06 01:56:22 UTC  

if you have an online chatroom you have to know how to regulate it, we dont live under anarchy, we're still living in a world filled with reactionaries

2017-06-06 01:56:47 UTC  

you admitted yourself that you're not even a leftist, so i have no idea what merits you have on lecturing me on how marxist or reactionary i am

2017-06-06 01:56:55 UTC  

you dont even understand the meaning of the word reactionary

2017-06-06 01:57:02 UTC  

I am studying Marxism.

2017-06-06 01:57:19 UTC  

then shut up and dont try to lecture me

2017-06-06 01:57:37 UTC  

if you people dont want changes around here, fine by me, i'll probably leave before today's over anyways

2017-06-06 01:57:45 UTC  

shitty server filled with shitty people

2017-06-06 01:57:53 UTC  

roughly 30% of people here are actual leftists

2017-06-06 01:58:21 UTC  

"It seems you are very motivated to effect change in the 'real world'. But I fear this is partly reactionary, a misunderstanding of what Marxism is." this statement is so painfully stupid its hurting me