It is possible to show why people get things wrong.

Irrationality is demonstrable.

The world is not completely rational. They are irrational too as part of the world.

Of course.

But if you can get far with reason, why jump off?

Logical arguments are abstractions, yes. Logic is an abstract system. It is not 'wrong'. The premises, though, can be wrong, which makes the conclusions also wrong. But if the premises are accurate, the conclusions will also be accurate.

As observations improve, so do the abstract conclusions.

Always improving.

So why jump off?

>But if the premises are accurate, the conclusions will also be accurate

That is not true

That was Hegels mistake

I mean they are accurate relative to observation.

Correct logic based on correct observation can be also wrong. Most of the time it was wrong in our history.

No observation is 100% accurate. But observations improve. Is that what you mean by they were wrong?

'Wrong' is not the correct word.

Correct logic based on correct observation may lead to the false conclusion and false prediction.

Wait, logic is not only about making predictions. Also, how can correct logic/premise lead to false conclusions?

Have to walk my wife out. Thank you for your time. I'll try to answer this later.

No worries.

@Deleted User Hey I wonder, are you Polish too or just likes his music?

What's up my fellow comrades

do yall hate jews

yes

@millie Yeah, why we shouldn't? Most leftist founders hated the juice.

is this a tankie chat

there are tankies on here yea

but is it like all tankies

or just

kinda tankies

Im a DeLeonist

oh

ok good

This is a very diverse discord

Diversity is our strength

oh

this place is mostly just all kinds of people's common battleground and occasional non-autism

Basically

so

how exactly is this for "communists and anarchist"

aren't those terms the opposites