Message from @ClibtardMario
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The capitalist does it with your permission, the state does it by the threat of a gun
And if you make it easier for a worker to start his own business you give him the chance to be his own boss
Business grants are great tbh, even though financial management classes are just better
the capitalist does not do it with your permission, you are coerced by the economic system
How so?
you're not able to live a good life without working for a company, you have no ability to meaningfully negotiate wages
coerced because it is simply better
you're always at fear of being fired, etc. etc.
You do if you have the skills
@Deleted User That's not true at all
Unemployment is at 4,5%, job creation is hitting new highs, wage growth is boosting
Who would fire a good employee?
You're always in risk of losing them to another company if anything
unemployment % does not count people who have dropped out of the workforce
It does
no it does not
There is payroll employment change in either way, so your argument is null
that's literally how unemployment % is calculated and has always been
that also does not include underemployment, wage growth not actually growing (it hasn't for the last, what? 40-50 years?)
@Deleted User There is the U-6 which counts anyone who is unemployed, those seeking and not seeking job.
wages have not grown with either inflation or with productivity
because the ability to negotiate wages lies solely in the hands of the employer
as an individual worker, you have no actual power
Wage Growth in the United States averaged 6.26 percent from 1960 until 2017
You can literally get more power by becoming a better worker
fuck work
Some people won't do well, that's a given
yeah, you want to know something?
But in trying to make their work guaranteed you lower productivity, increase cost
there was more social mobility in the fucking medieval ages than today
want to get more power as a worker?
you don't
want to get richer? you won't
How was the mobility in the socialist countries?
as a whole, it's impossible
there wasn't mobility because that wasn't the god damn fucking point
What system do you propose that is better than capitalism in terms of mobility
it was to get rid of classes, you incipient moron
So no one moves up?\