Message from @ClibtardMario

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2017-07-09 19:50:56 UTC  

fuck me that's bad

2017-07-09 19:51:25 UTC  

Yeah their postmaster was ancient apparently

2017-07-09 19:51:32 UTC  

Like 70 or something

2017-07-09 19:51:50 UTC  

Some ridiculous age where people shouldn't be working anymore

2017-07-09 19:52:19 UTC  

I think a lot of small town post offices end up like that

2017-07-09 19:52:34 UTC  

Though the pay isn't too bad

2017-07-09 19:52:52 UTC  

eh, a lot of stagnation if you get one of those jobs

2017-07-09 19:53:06 UTC  

pay is good for when you're young, then you stay and become comfortable

2017-07-09 19:53:16 UTC  

And the people who took a risk will pass you by mostly

2017-07-09 19:53:37 UTC  

Seen it many times in government organizations, i've worked for some

2017-07-09 21:54:50 UTC  

hi

2017-07-09 22:32:49 UTC  

other people's money?

2017-07-09 22:33:15 UTC  

the whole system of property exists because of the state protecting property rights

2017-07-09 22:33:36 UTC  

which allow the capitalist to steal the labour of the worker and to give back only a fraction of it, in the form of the wages

2017-07-09 22:33:44 UTC  

the one who uses other people's money is the capitalist

2017-07-09 22:59:03 UTC  

^

2017-07-09 23:08:25 UTC  

The capitalist does it with your permission, the state does it by the threat of a gun

2017-07-09 23:12:24 UTC  

And if you make it easier for a worker to start his own business you give him the chance to be his own boss

2017-07-09 23:13:02 UTC  

Business grants are great tbh, even though financial management classes are just better

2017-07-09 23:13:18 UTC  

the capitalist does not do it with your permission, you are coerced by the economic system

2017-07-09 23:13:33 UTC  

How so?

2017-07-09 23:13:43 UTC  

you're not able to live a good life without working for a company, you have no ability to meaningfully negotiate wages

2017-07-09 23:13:50 UTC  

coerced because it is simply better

2017-07-09 23:14:00 UTC  

you're always at fear of being fired, etc. etc.

2017-07-09 23:14:06 UTC  

You do if you have the skills

2017-07-09 23:14:08 UTC  

@Deleted User That's not true at all

2017-07-09 23:14:28 UTC  

Unemployment is at 4,5%, job creation is hitting new highs, wage growth is boosting

2017-07-09 23:14:31 UTC  

Who would fire a good employee?

2017-07-09 23:14:42 UTC  

You're always in risk of losing them to another company if anything

2017-07-09 23:14:50 UTC  

unemployment % does not count people who have dropped out of the workforce

2017-07-09 23:14:56 UTC  

It does

2017-07-09 23:15:01 UTC  

no it does not

2017-07-09 23:15:17 UTC  

There is payroll employment change in either way, so your argument is null

2017-07-09 23:15:20 UTC  

that's literally how unemployment % is calculated and has always been

2017-07-09 23:15:47 UTC  

that also does not include underemployment, wage growth not actually growing (it hasn't for the last, what? 40-50 years?)

2017-07-09 23:15:55 UTC  

@Deleted User There is the U-6 which counts anyone who is unemployed, those seeking and not seeking job.

2017-07-09 23:16:12 UTC  

It is at 8%, which is fairly low for the broad scope of the measure

2017-07-09 23:17:07 UTC  

wages have not grown with either inflation or with productivity

2017-07-09 23:17:19 UTC  

because the ability to negotiate wages lies solely in the hands of the employer

2017-07-09 23:17:21 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/333748494638645249/united-states-wage-growth.png

2017-07-09 23:17:31 UTC  

as an individual worker, you have no actual power