Message from @ClibtardMario

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2017-07-09 23:41:52 UTC  

since you have a part of the profits

2017-07-09 23:42:12 UTC  

I don't think those companies do too well

2017-07-09 23:42:24 UTC  

coops can exist alongside capitalist enterprises, but they aren't capitalist since there is no employee/employer relationship

2017-07-09 23:42:26 UTC  

Group up with 50 workers and make a pact that each one will save a part of its own income to build a cooperative business. Boom, coops inside capitalism

2017-07-09 23:42:33 UTC  

Exactly

2017-07-09 23:42:42 UTC  

Just let the workers do whatever they want with their money

2017-07-09 23:42:43 UTC  

coops do well

2017-07-09 23:42:49 UTC  

the numbers are in their favor iirc

2017-07-09 23:42:58 UTC  

It depends of the coop

2017-07-09 23:43:17 UTC  

Any examples in which countries these companies are very active in?

2017-07-09 23:43:22 UTC  

I remember of a cooperative café which was bankrupt because workers were extremely lazy

2017-07-09 23:43:27 UTC  

northern spain is the goto example

2017-07-09 23:43:39 UTC  

Santander is unironically there

2017-07-09 23:43:41 UTC  

there is a huge coop

2017-07-09 23:44:03 UTC  

but coops have some problems, fx banks aren't very willing to give loans

2017-07-09 23:44:16 UTC  

fx?

2017-07-09 23:44:22 UTC  

Why not? If they're profitable

2017-07-09 23:44:39 UTC  

cant answer, probably something with "who's gonna be responsible"

2017-07-09 23:44:41 UTC  

You could assumingly point to other succesful coop companies right

2017-07-09 23:44:44 UTC  

since there's no owner

2017-07-09 23:44:50 UTC  

whats a fx bank

2017-07-09 23:44:52 UTC  

You can be responsible together

2017-07-09 23:44:57 UTC  

yeah but most companies are small

2017-07-09 23:45:02 UTC  

yeah but I guess banks dont like that

2017-07-09 23:45:11 UTC  

That's the entire idea right, profit together fail together

2017-07-09 23:45:19 UTC  

```whats a fx bank```

2017-07-09 23:45:42 UTC  

I assume they would, more chance to get tour money back than if one guy fails and declared bankrupcy

2017-07-09 23:45:54 UTC  

@ClibtardMario for example, banks

2017-07-09 23:46:19 UTC  

@Timo))) there's probabbly some legality issues with having many people responsible

2017-07-09 23:46:28 UTC  

probably?

2017-07-09 23:46:31 UTC  

Well, then I follow the opinion of the capitalist comrade over here: if it gives profits, why deny loans?

2017-07-09 23:46:31 UTC  

how so?

2017-07-09 23:46:33 UTC  

yes I'm not a bank

2017-07-09 23:46:41 UTC  

Heck, they can actually go to a social credit union instead

2017-07-09 23:46:42 UTC  

I'm neither a lawyer

2017-07-09 23:46:46 UTC  

There are lots out there

2017-07-09 23:46:58 UTC  

Then you can't really make that argument since it seems it wouldn't be an issue

2017-07-09 23:47:21 UTC  

you're right, I don't see why it would be a problem but apparently it is

2017-07-09 23:47:25 UTC  

I'm no bank as I said

2017-07-09 23:47:45 UTC  

I think the issue is that those companies simply don't succeed like the regular companies do

2017-07-09 23:47:47 UTC  

Then it's not a problem