Message from @ClibtardMario
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Whats NKVD btw?
Internal police force of Stalin USSR
@Timo))) "show me a system that promotes hard work better than capitalism"?
I wanna try and say tribal society, since if you create double as much you have double as much
A tribal society is not possible anymore and vastly inferior in other aspects
tfw after battling against the local tribe you die of common cold at the advanced age of 22 :anprim:
correct
ehm let's try, market socialism aka coops
So I guess the claim is now that capitalism promotes more hard work than any other viable system
Coops can exist on a capitalist society, really
since you have a part of the profits
I don't think those companies do too well
coops can exist alongside capitalist enterprises, but they aren't capitalist since there is no employee/employer relationship
Group up with 50 workers and make a pact that each one will save a part of its own income to build a cooperative business. Boom, coops inside capitalism
Exactly
Just let the workers do whatever they want with their money
coops do well
the numbers are in their favor iirc
It depends of the coop
Any examples in which countries these companies are very active in?
northern spain is the goto example
Santander is unironically there
there is a huge coop
but coops have some problems, fx banks aren't very willing to give loans
fx?
Why not? If they're profitable
cant answer, probably something with "who's gonna be responsible"
You could assumingly point to other succesful coop companies right
since there's no owner
whats a fx bank
You can be responsible together
yeah but most companies are small
yeah but I guess banks dont like that
That's the entire idea right, profit together fail together
```whats a fx bank```
I assume they would, more chance to get tour money back than if one guy fails and declared bankrupcy
@ClibtardMario for example, banks
@Timo))) there's probabbly some legality issues with having many people responsible
probably?
Well, then I follow the opinion of the capitalist comrade over here: if it gives profits, why deny loans?