I don't think he's coming back soon lmao

Jobless rates is finally falling and GDP growth showed an outstanding performance on Q1

@Arash#4421

lmao he left?

He's done it before with me

I love this discord

still no answer to that question, dang

Whats NKVD btw?

Internal police force of Stalin USSR

@Timo))) "show me a system that promotes hard work better than capitalism"?

I wanna try and say tribal society, since if you create double as much you have double as much

A tribal society is not possible anymore and vastly inferior in other aspects

tfw after battling against the local tribe you die of common cold at the advanced age of 22 :anprim:

correct

ehm let's try, market socialism aka coops

So I guess the claim is now that capitalism promotes more hard work than any other viable system

Coops can exist on a capitalist society, really

since you have a part of the profits

I don't think those companies do too well

coops can exist alongside capitalist enterprises, but they aren't capitalist since there is no employee/employer relationship

Group up with 50 workers and make a pact that each one will save a part of its own income to build a cooperative business. Boom, coops inside capitalism

Exactly

Just let the workers do whatever they want with their money

coops do well

the numbers are in their favor iirc

It depends of the coop

Any examples in which countries these companies are very active in?

I remember of a cooperative café which was bankrupt because workers were extremely lazy

northern spain is the goto example

Santander is unironically there

there is a huge coop

but coops have some problems, fx banks aren't very willing to give loans

fx?

Why not? If they're profitable

cant answer, probably something with "who's gonna be responsible"

You could assumingly point to other succesful coop companies right

since there's no owner

whats a fx bank

You can be responsible together

yeah but most companies are small

yeah but I guess banks dont like that